Hi Jamie,

On 08 August 2000 at 11:19:37 GMT +0100 (which was 11:19 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "OT? S/MIME & PGP (inspired by: Re[2]: List server rules)":

TF>> Your  opinion is that it doesn't matter to you. It does matter to
TF>> me.  Please do not send S/Mime signatures. In this relase version
TF>> which  I  am using here in the office, and for which this list is
TF>> anyway,  your  certificate shows as a non-openable attachment and
TF>> is just a waste of bandwidth.

TF>> Thanks for some consideration. EOT.

JD> You appear to be a minority low bandwidth user. Many users enjoy PGP and
JD> S/Mime. I do not think it is necessary to decrease our security to
JD> accommodate the minority of users who have a very low bandwidth
JD> connection.

JD> As it has been mentioned before text does compress very well. Maybe
JD> you should double check your modem settings.

Okay - you've all had a say in this debate. My turn:

Thomas  you  have  my sympathy for your connectivity issues. Sometimes
signatures  are  a  valid method of authentication. On this list, I do
agree that they are not needed.

There  is another bandwidth issue on this topic too. Mail base size. I
archive  all  TBUDL  and  TBBETA throughput for quick reference. These
signatures  are  a  permanent  overhead  in  my  archive and at 6k per
message it starts to add up.

Jamie:  Please sign only with PGP for this list (TBUDL) for these main
reasons:

1)  Your  Thawte certificate is *not* notorised and does *not* certify
that  the mail comes from Jamie Dainton. Some S/MIME signatures in use
have  been  fully  authenticated and are therefore more acceptable but
still OTT from the POV of identification for TBUDL.

2)  PGP  signing  is  much  more  humane  for  those  of  us with huge
mail-bases and / or slow connectivity issues.

IMNSHO  S/MIME  signing  constitutes  an  attachment and as such isn't
permitted in TBUDL.

While  working  on signing issues for the beta and writing about it in
TBBETA, well that's another issue.

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Cheers,
.\\arck

Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer
Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA
www: http://www.silverstones.com
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