Hello Joe, On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:23:31 -0600 GMT (07/01/2002, 00:23 +0800 GMT), Joe Finocchiaro wrote:
>> I have long decided that there is no such thing as common sense. JF> My own common sense tells me that you don't really believe that. I should have written down the things that happened in my office when I didn't properly instruct my people, thinking the detail I left out wasn't worth mentioning, because it is due to common sense. And of course they did it differently. When I remember an example from the office, I will let you now. It was a big problem for me in the beginning, but I have now been in the Far East for so long that I don't realise these differences easily any more. What we call common sense is a product of our upbringing and experience, and basic things change with cultures. An example would be the following: Common sense tells you that people usually eat with knife and fork. Common sense tells other people that you eat with chopsticks. On highway signs depicting a restaurant, a plate surrounded by a knife and a fork will be shown in Germany; a rice bowl and two chopsticks are shown over here. Both are intelligible within their respecive cultures; a German highway-sign designer, never having been in Taiwan, may just use the wrong picture - due to his common sense. JF> Until they discover that all human beings aren't really the same JF> species after all, Thomas, I'm going to assume that we're all much JF> more alike than we are different. We all eat. We just do it differently. ;-) JF> And I think it makes sense (common or otherwise) to the overwhelming JF> majority of people that the *easier* you make something to use, the JF> more likely it is that people will use it. Correct, but for some people "easy" means something else than for others. Thai people (at least outside of the big cities) often find it easier to sit on the floor and cannot understand why Westerners prefer to sit on chairs. JF> No, it probably doesn't apply to, say, Mike Tyson, but then I'm not JF> sure that he's a human being. LOL! JF> But you're still a human being, which means that you'll naturally JF> migrate to whichever way(s) is(are) easiest for you. Yes, but that is a personal decision and cannot be generalised. At least not across the whole world. >> I use alt-F2 rather than hitting the Check All button with the >> mouse, but I perfectly agree that the mouse made many things a lot >> easier for people advancing in age <g>. JF> I'm pushing 60, Thomas. And I represent the generations of human JF> beings still out there who didn't cut their teeth on computers. I hope you don't feel insulted; I actually meant myself, using the mouse more and more. I'll be 40 in a couple of days. I was reluctant to use the mouse when I first had to use Windows. But I think this has more to do with what you are used to, rather than what is easier. Many power users prefer to use the keyboard, because they find it faster and more precise. My problem is remembering the 150 or so keyboard shortcuts TB alone offers, and that is not the only program I use. >>FWIW the keyboard shortcuts crtl-C and crtl-V are *not* intuitive. JF> Okay. Maybe you're right about that. But those commands were among JF> the first ones I was ever taught. And they remain at least universal, JF> if not intuitive, thanks to Bill Gates. That's what I'm saying. ;-) It's what you are used to that counts. JF> Well, they are at least a little intuitive. C=copy; X=cut; V=vaste. ;-) JF> Yep. You're basically a GUI Guy. But you've got a little Keyboard JF> Guy blood in you, too. Thanks. Must be in my genes. :-) JF> Have you decided how you will raise your children yet? You mean on the keyboard or the mouse? <g> JF> And I think the WordPerfect program was essentially a conspiracy JF> against old men with fat fingers. I think certain folks (i.e., women) JF> probably didn't want us to ever have the ability to communicate with JF> each other. LOL! >> There you go. On the question: What's better - mouse or keyboard, I >> contradict myself. Bottom line: I use both. ;-) JF> Me, too. JF> I think maybe you misunderstood me. I don't think one method is JF> inherently "better" than the other. It's just that, for some of us JF> anyway, one method is much *easier* than the other. This I can agree to. JF> And that difference (Viva la difference!) should at least be JF> acknowledged by the great Bat! team, especially if its objective is to JF> sell more copies of TB! Yes, there is agreement that every function should be accessible via the mouse or the keyboard. I think that is good programming practice nowadays. JF> I may not know much about computers, but I know my marketing. No doubt about your marketing knowledge, but I think you know more about computers that you want to let on. ;-) f'up2: tbot -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. On the other hand, you have different fingers. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/25 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- ________________________________________________________ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ : http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
