-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 1:32:18 PM PST, Ray Vermey wrote:
>>RR>�On Sunday, January 13, 2002, 4:24:39 PM, GeekMaster wrote: >> >> >>G>>�PocoMail. �In some ways, it's less powerful than The Bat, but >>nobody works harder than PocoMail's >>G>>�author at accomodating user requests in the mail client. HTML is >>nothing new, and despite the wishes of >>G>>�some, it's not going to go away. �When The Bat makes the leap >>into the "new world", I will almost >>G>>�certainly use it again, as so much of everything else that it >>does is virtually perfect. Hello Ray, Above is your "double level" quote of Rick (using TB! "verbatim" quoting) quoting GeekMaster's *very long wrap setting* message generated by "X-Mailer: Opera 6.01 build 1022". While I might have preferred it if GeekMaster had set a more "reasonable" wrap to begin with, Rick's quoting of it (necessary to open into a full window view to see it "properly") was, while also a bit of a pain, at least "accurate". However - by the time you got to it in Pocomail, and sent it along, we get the funky wrapping we see above. Below is what I, with a couple simple key strokes, was able to do with that same double level quote in TB!'s editor: > On Sunday, January 13, 2002, 4:24:39 PM, GeekMaster wrote: G>> PocoMail. In some ways, it's less powerful than The Bat, but G>> nobody works harder than PocoMail's author at accomodating user G>> requests in the mail client. HTML is nothing new, and despite the G>> wishes of some, it's not going to go away. When The Bat makes the G>> leap into the "new world", I will almost certainly use it again, G>> as so much of everything else that it does is virtually perfect. Granted - I didn't "preserve" it in the verbatim way Rick did, but I wanted it to be wrapped to what *I* consider reasonable - to fit with the rest of my message formatting. Being able to "clean up" and re-format things like that, while they are things Slaven is working on for Pocomail, are still not really "operational" on Poco. Poco's current "clean up" and other formatting tools are still yielding some pretty funky results (some *very* funky results as well - even more so than the example above).. The first mail client I went to after leaving OE (three months into my first experience with email), I went to Pocomail. It was my default email client for almost a year. While Slaven has many good (and some really great!) ideas, in the areas of an email client that are *most important* to me, it falls well short of The Bat! Especially it's message editor! (and a few other very useful things TB! offers). I'm still a beta tester of Pocomail, as I'm curious about what Slaven is up to, but that program has a *long way* to go before it can be considered a very practical client. As for bugs... The last *relatively stable* Pocomail is still v2.11. I'm currently playing with v2.5.1.999, and it's still quite buggy (as have been all betas since v2.11). I corresponded with Slaven quite extensively about the message editor (concerned with *plain text* composition, as I'm not very interested in HTML), and while he's working on some ideas (many of which I told him about from my *very happy* experiences with The Bat!), the plain text formatting (and obviously by the looks of your quoted text, the HTML as well) is still a problem. When I was writing my first reply to this thread yesterday, I opened up my Pocomail to play with the editor a bit more. It still has *serious* problems in cleaning up and formatting/re-formatting text. For a long time, while all Pocomail's unique bells and whistles are being developed, it's message editor has been the sadly forgotten child. It remains in pretty poor working condition. Much too poor for me to even consider using it. Personally, I think Slaven is great. I know he's dedicated to making Pocomail better, and no doubt it will improve. His tireless programming efforts and dedication to customer support (and openness to and implementation of suggestions) are much appreciated by Pocomail users and beta testers. However - it is, in my opinion, still *far* from being ready for prime time. In spite of what I see as some very serious shortcomings, I do in fact really like Pocomail. Certainly - if Slaven were to get together with the programmers of TB!, there could be some *very interesting* developments! :-) Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8&Body=Please%20send%20keys -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) - GPGshell v2.10 iD8DBQE8Q2TGjVbXUvsE8ukRAumbAJ48Yrajk8m8fC7T9QI9dt7NyqseCACfXZOC nt6qRafP2oDeXnOyjoeVaCA= =mYbR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ________________________________________________________ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ : http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com

