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On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 1:32:18 PM PST, Ray Vermey wrote:

>>RR>�On Sunday, January 13, 2002, 4:24:39 PM, GeekMaster wrote:
>>
>>
>>G>>�PocoMail. �In some ways, it's less powerful than The Bat, but
>>nobody works harder than PocoMail's
>>G>>�author at accomodating user requests in the mail client. HTML is
>>nothing new, and despite the wishes of
>>G>>�some, it's not going to go away. �When The Bat makes the leap
>>into the "new world", I will almost
>>G>>�certainly use it again, as so much of everything else that it
>>does is virtually perfect.

Hello Ray,

Above is your "double level" quote of Rick (using TB! "verbatim"
quoting) quoting GeekMaster's *very long wrap setting* message
generated by "X-Mailer: Opera 6.01 build 1022". While I might have
preferred it if GeekMaster had set a more "reasonable" wrap to begin
with, Rick's quoting of it (necessary to open into a full window view
to see it "properly") was, while also a bit of a pain, at least
"accurate".

However - by the time you got to it in Pocomail, and sent it along, we
get the funky wrapping we see above. Below is what I, with a couple
simple key strokes, was able to do with that same double level quote
in TB!'s editor:

> On Sunday, January 13, 2002, 4:24:39 PM, GeekMaster wrote:

G>> PocoMail. In some ways, it's less powerful than The Bat, but
G>> nobody works harder than PocoMail's author at accomodating user
G>> requests in the mail client. HTML is nothing new, and despite the
G>> wishes of some, it's not going to go away. When The Bat makes the
G>> leap into the "new world", I will almost certainly use it again,
G>> as so much of everything else that it does is virtually perfect.

Granted - I didn't "preserve" it in the verbatim way Rick did, but I
wanted it to be wrapped to what *I* consider reasonable - to fit with
the rest of my message formatting. Being able to "clean up" and
re-format things like that, while they are things Slaven is working on
for Pocomail, are still not really "operational" on Poco. Poco's
current "clean up" and other formatting tools are still yielding some
pretty funky results (some *very* funky results as well - even more so
than the example above)..

The first mail client I went to after leaving OE (three months into my
first experience with email), I went to Pocomail.  It was my default
email client for almost a year.

While Slaven has many good (and some really great!) ideas, in the
areas of an email client that are *most important* to me, it falls
well short of The Bat! Especially it's message editor! (and a few
other very useful things TB! offers). I'm still a beta tester of
Pocomail, as I'm curious about what Slaven is up to, but that program
has a *long way* to go before it can be considered a very practical
client.

As for bugs... The last *relatively stable* Pocomail is still v2.11.
I'm currently playing with v2.5.1.999, and it's still quite buggy (as
have been all betas since v2.11). I corresponded with Slaven quite
extensively about the message editor (concerned with *plain text*
composition, as I'm not very interested in HTML), and while he's
working on some ideas (many of which I told him about from my *very
happy* experiences with The Bat!), the plain text formatting (and
obviously by the looks of your quoted text, the HTML as well) is still
a problem.

When I was writing my first reply to this thread yesterday, I opened
up my Pocomail to play with the editor a bit more.  It still has
*serious* problems in cleaning up and formatting/re-formatting text.

For a long time, while all Pocomail's unique bells and whistles are
being developed, it's message editor has been the sadly forgotten
child.  It remains in pretty poor working condition.  Much too poor
for me to even consider using it.

Personally, I think Slaven is great. I know he's dedicated to making
Pocomail better, and no doubt it will improve. His tireless
programming efforts and dedication to customer support (and openness
to and implementation of suggestions) are much appreciated by Pocomail
users and beta testers. However - it is, in my opinion, still *far*
from being ready for prime time.

In spite of what I see as some very serious shortcomings, I do in fact
really like Pocomail.  Certainly - if Slaven were to get together with
the programmers of TB!, there could be some *very interesting*
developments!  :-)

Melissa
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