Hello Miguel! On Saturday, March 2, 2002 at 1:38:26 PM you wrote:
> I missed it, I joined this list about a month ago. Luckily the archives are quite good. ;-) > That may be my problem, that I don't understand the benefits of secure > signing in general, and for a list like this in particular. I may have > to do some reading about PGP, etc., and see if I understand. More or less the same as signing an ordinary letter or contract. > But the big footprint is not just caused by secure signatures, at > least the way I see it. As an example to explain what I mean let's > take one of these "Me too!" messages ( and by "me too" here I mean a > short 1 line text). I see your point, but ... Sometimes "Me, too" messages are needed especially on software related lists, e.g. to identify bugs. > - First you get the RFC-822 headers. 1. We can't do anything against them. 2. I've seen a lot of requests to include more headers. 3. TB! already uses only the most sufficient ones (plus list headers, which are a real improvement on lists). > I assume that everybody in this list uses TB, don't all of you take > advantage of threading? Some use threading, some don't. but that's beside the point. Maybe it is just a matter of personal taste but I like the (various) intros in messages, although I use the pure, short, informational one only. > - Then some people quote the whole original message, or big parts of > it. Again, what about threading? I concur when it comes to full quotes. What about my use of snipped quoting? BTW, threading doesn't come in here, I usually delete a message I've read unless it is very important to me and I don't have any other meaningful way of storing it but TB!'s message base. > - Then, finally, a normal signature. This is nice and polite. But some > time perhaps too big with full address details, etc., etc. I consider it a letter head, which is quite useful for both sides, sender and receiver. > - Then maybe a rather long Cookie. When reading and writing to this > list I assume we are mainly interested about TB, possible problems and > ways to do things. But, who cares about what John Doe thinks about > French fries? Wrong. Communication is about much more than pure information. Luckily the world (of business) again begins to recognize this crucial point. I don't want to bore you, so I just leave the monologue. Just believe me, I like those cookies by others, it tells me a lot about their state of mind. > - But we are not finished yet. Then comes the PGP signature, some > times rather long, so I will know that it was you who wrote "Me too!" > and that you did write "Me too!". Correct? Yes. > - But we are not done yet either. Then comes the information added by > the list server, telling us again when is the birthday of the youngest > moderator's nice and which is already in the RFC-822 headers Don't you think you are beginning to go overboard with a real point you might have? > And all of that to just say "Me too!". It does seem quite a waste to me. The problem is more about contents of a message and therefore the thought one put into it. It's not so much about the "overhead". > I have no idea what may cause the problem, I just wanted to say that > "Me too!" <g> had seen the same problem as Geoff. see, that's why it sometimes is a good thing to "Me-too". -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/45 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C "Do you speak Esperanto?" - "Like a native!" -- ________________________________________________________ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ : http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
