Carsten Guthardt-Schulz, [CGS] wrote: CGS> Or you could say they both have a problem. They point is that they CGS> could have either made the editor customizable enough or allow an CGS> external editor, instead of adding a second one.
They looked at the customisation of MicroEd, found it to be too difficult short of a rewrite, and decided to simply offer an alternative editor. If you're using an external editor, you wouldn't be able to work with quick templates while editing, insert cookies or paste as quotations using the special quote prefixes. It therefore seems nicer to offer an integrated editor, doesn't it? Offering an external editor as the only alternative would likely be more frowned upon. Offering both, well that's something to consider and they may very well do. CGS> Now you're probably gonna tell me that noone needs that or that the CGS> choice that exists is enough. I wouldn't say that. CGS> Wouldn't be the first discussion where you defend Ritlabs and TB CGS> beyond a point that is reasonable for me. I always try to be reasonable, but if you don't feel that way what can I say. :) CGS> Go ahead and try a more critical approach and you'll see that there CGS> are lots of things that could have been done better. There are many CGS> features that I'm very happy with as well. Let's try to keep the CGS> balance. I don't see the need to start generalising here. You said there's little difference between v1.62 and v2. I disagreed and I think I have valid grounds for that. You said MicroEd is buggy. I disagreed and said that it's not really buggy but it just works differently. Ritlabs acknowledged that many did not wish to use an editor that works differently, so thankfully, they've offered an alternative that's also integrated, so that those interested in an alternative editor can use one while at the same time, enjoy the benefits of an integrated editor. On a general note, I do agree that there are things that could be done better in TB! and that it's far from perfect. Surprise! :) I'm not at all hesitant to make such a declaration. I've often criticized functionality in TB! and requested modifications, new features etc. AM>> Wrap at 70 characters then. The standard is 72 anyway. CGS> This doesn't help, because I'm not only reading my own messages. Or CGS> someone with a 67 character display will come along and complain CGS> again. Do you know what I mean? A text will look like this... You will never please everyone. How can you expect to please someone whose viewer will not display more than 60 characters per line?? If you use *any* client/editor and set it to wrap at 75 characters, it will look like that when viewed in a window that will accommodate only 70 characters per line. If you don't wrap your text it will appear as very long lines in most client viewers, since most client viewers will display the text formatted as it was sent. They will wrap only when the text hits the right edge of the window. For my viewer, that's at 130 characters which is uncomfortable to read. Because of this, articles on netiquette recommend that you wrap the text you send, ideally at 72 characters or less. It's far more likely that you'll find someone able to read your text wrapped at 75 characters than one who cannot. It's far more likely that if you don't wrap the text you send, your recipient will find your lines of text too long to read. AM>> A quote? What do you mean? CGS> I inserted text with "paste as quotation" and when I continued CGS> writing below it the text colour was light read. Aren't quotations normally coloured differently? CGS> My greeting was still in black, though. Not a quotation. CGS> I can even reproduce it: I mark a block in a message in the preview CGS> pane, press F4 and there it is: everything I write unter the quote CGS> appears in light red. Doesn't happen all the time, I'm not sure CGS> what it depends on. Maybe only when the reply-template for the CGS> folder contains %Quotes %Cursor Upon experimenting with the alternative editor, I see that if the cursor is at the end of a block of quoted material and you hit <enter> to get to a new line and start typing, the new text has the same colour as the quoted text. We noted this a long time ago and reported it. I see that it hasn't been fixed. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ ________________________________________________ Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
