Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG> Is the reason then that "Plain text - Windows" wraps badly due to RG> the font chosen, as you suggest it may be? THAT would be a simple RG> way to put this entire discussion to bed!
No, it's not because of your font choice, but as I explained in another message ,----- / mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ | As with most other editors that behave as the Windows compatible editor | does, it only soft wraps. The wrapping you see as you type is really | only visual. To confirm this, copy a few lines of text you type in that | editor and paste it in notepad. Toggle off notepads wrapping and it | appears as a single line of text. | | Do the same experiment with MicroEd and you'll see that text copied from | it into notepad appears wrapped irrespective of notepads wrap setting. | | TB! was originally developed with one editor, i.e., MicroEd. As a result | it never wraps on sending. It never needed to. `----- TB! currently doesn't wrap text on sending. Your editor of choice doesn't really wrap text, even though it may appear to do so. The editor of most e-mail clients behave in a similar way and will therefore wrap the message text on sending. Of course, that sort of behaviour opens its own can of worms. RG> I have quite often (way more times than you'd think from my emails!) RG> tried to use the MicroEd editor but if is so completely foreign to RG> me that I ended up having to constantly switch back and forth RG> between the 2 plain text editors available to me that creating an RG> email takes me MANY minutes instead of just a few seconds. At well RG> over 100 emails a day (in addition to a real job and a life) that RG> becomes quite unacceptable. One of the things that attracted me to TB! is MicroEd. I found it really odd to work with at first but it solved two problems for me: - I could be confident that what I saw in front of me before sending, in terms of wrapping etc., is what the recipient will receive at the other end. - I could do some formatting actions that would be tremendously tedious with a standard editor. I strongly believe in nested replies. It creates a conversation type effect. As a result, I often split quoted paragraphs into parts and reply to specific parts. I need to reflow each block of quoted text to make it look neat. TB! makes this a snap. In fact, with PowerPro, I use single macro keyboard shortcuts to split quoted blocks at my desired point, appropriately separate them, and then reflow them on the fly. As a result, for e-mail, TB! was *saving* me time. I therefore hunkered down and got accustomed to its workings and what an investment it has been! After all, I have a real job and a life to consider here. ;) RG> BTW Another issue I have with the MicroEd editor is that the lines RG> do not wrap at all (!) forcing me to ALT_L every paragraph in every RG> message. Why does THAT happen? Sounds like you don't have auto-wrap enabled in the editor preferences. If you want wrapping as you re-edit an already wrapped block of text, then hit Shift-CTRL-F to toggle on auto-format. Autoformat is not bad in so far as it will reflow any text that's not separated from what you're typing by an extra return. Try typing a word list with auto-format on to see what I mean. RG> My answer FOR MY EMAILS TO THIS MAIL LIST is that I now create RG> messages in "Plain text - Windows" than send with the "Plain text - RG> MicroEd" option selected. If that's what you're doing then it doesn't seem to be working since your text remains unwrapped. RG> It is another step, but since I am concerned that recipients are RG> comfortable with my email (believe it or not) :) RG> I do it. I know you're concerned, or else you wouldn't be spending so much time discussing the issue. RG> The rest of my messages I must (for the time being) continue to use RG> (and send as) "Plain text - Windows" for no other reason than I RG> needn't learn (yet) another set of keyboard conventions and editing RG> procedures. I've been completely unable to edit in the MicroEd RG> format. I can't get a bloody thing done. Wow. I'd love to see what you're referring to here. RG> Once I figure out how to make "Plain text - Windows" editor RG> send emails wrapped at X lines then the point is moot (unless folks RG> simply WANT to argue!) You will not be able to unless wrapping on send is added to TB!'s functionality. RG> As I've said before, this kind of thing borders on arguing religion. I don't think so. If it really were, I wouldn't have really cared. There are real issues of comfort here and why some ergonometric and readability standards/issues have found their way in electronic media. You can't please everyone, but there's a way to please most. RG> Some people care WAY TOO MUCH what other people think or do. We care in so much as it affects us. I really don't care what *you* choose to do something that affects me and others. In this case it concerns sending mail for a reason, i.e., for others to read. There are a lot of things you do when composing that message to come across in a favourable manner. One of those things is your formatting which is just as important as not being rude and being clear etc. I think you know what I mean. :) -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html ____________________________________ Using TB! v2.01.26 on WinXP Pro (SP1)
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