Dear Ken,

@27-Jan-2004, 18:14 -0600 (28-Jan 00:14 UK time) ken green [K] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

K>>> My main business account Inbox came back empty (from the IMAP to Pop
K>>> conversion?)

>> Hang on a minute... I didn't think there was such a thing.

K> If there were no such thing, why is there a CONVERSION PROCESS
K> during the upgrade?

Pass - I didn't know they'd been added.

K> Are you talking about something else?

No.

K> The conversion process is part of the install for v2. A message
K> box comes up, reporting that IMAP folder will be created as POP.
K> There is even an apology for the inconvenience <-- there's an
K> understatement! :)

During the beta cycle, we were told to convert to POP3 before
upgrading. I didn't know that it had been automated. I would assume
that the automatic procedure was tested before incorporating it into
the release. Clearly, it was not tested on all configurations and
permutations. Your configuration obviously tripped it up.

>> The instructions for the upgrade were always to convert IMAP accounts
>> to POP *before* upgrading.

K> Where are those instructions?

These instructions were an integral part of the beta cycle for v2.

... <snip>

>> There is no transition from v1 IMAP to v2 IMAP.

K> Right. That fact is established. But there is a transition
K> process during v2 install that converts IMAP accounts to POP. If
K> that doesn't work, why not just pop up a window that says:
K> "Please convert all IMAP account to POP so that The Bat doesn't
K> screw your message base up, cause you to unistall, and revert to
K> your backup."

I agree. It should be described as a manual, pre-upgrade step, as it
was in the beta cycle. It seems to me that it's too dangerous to let
it convert automatically en-route.

K>>> When I stripped all things Bat from my laptop and did a clean
K>>> install of v2, everything seems to be doing OK.

>> ... as I (or anyone) would expect.

K> Oh come on... to say "everything seems to be doing OK" is
K> completely relative. Your response was either in jest, or naive
K> and myopic. Surely you haven't missed the numerous problems with
K> v2.....?

<bang> Ouch! where did that come from? I thought you were saying v2
was fine on the laptop after a clean install? I'm sure that's what
you said. That's what I'm agreeing with.

As for "numerous problems". No. I've seen reports of numerous
gotchas in configuring IMAP. But v2 is still a major improvement
over v1 in *every* respect for all users, even for IMAP. Okay, I
don't use IMAP and as a result my frustration levels are sat at zero
.. nowhere near the volcanic peaks you seem to have hit with it all
:-).

K>>> I was feeling good about The Bat again. I'm now going to have to
K>>> spend time trying to get back to 1.62r and see if I can recover
K>>> some messages....

>> This may indeed work, but make sure you switch the accounts to POP3
>> first and backup the messages you want to keep safe from any IMAP
>> accounts.

K> Will do.  Thanks for the help.

I try. Sorry if I'm coming over as glib here - don't intend to at
all. Just trying to keep up with the twists and turns of the saga.

-- 
Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
TB! v2.03.47 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1
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