Hello Mary, Mic Cullen, Roelof and others following this thread, In response to the reply Mary Bull sent on 13/07/2004 to my request regarding "Time to Upgrade?]"
DH>> Is TB! v 2.11.02 (the latest release version) stable? MB> Yes. it is stable. I've been using it for several weeks now. MB> There's one annoying bug, however, that shows for some people MB> and not for others: So it's both stable and unstable (that is, partially stable). MB> The View settings are not conserved for folders. If you are MB> reading in one folder and change to another, when you return to MB> the first folder, the order of messages in the message list pane MB> has changed. MB> I have been switching back and forth between Received time and MB> Created time as a means of refreshing the folder back to my MB> preferred View setting. A pain ITA, IMO. MB> I have read on tbbeta that simply using the Virtual Folders MB> capability avoids this problem. Also, I have read on tbbeta that MB> the bug is now fixed, and with RC4 being tested, The question is, how are the virtual folders implemented? It sounds like messages from several accounts can be viewed in the same window, al la Calypso (which has an "account" column). The question is, how are the messages to be included selected? In spite of what some TB! users (including a moderator friend) declare, there is no way to filter them accurately, IMO. I'd have to do it message by message, because: 1).- I have no way of anticipating the content or nature of some of the mail I am sent and therefore; 2).- My decisions are made on the fly, depending on what I find. Since I depend heavily on the Message Dispatcher, I'd prefer to select any mail I want put in the virtual window from there (just as I'd like to be able to flag and / or color mail from within the Message Dispatcher). Can any of that be done using v 2.x? MB> *RitLabs is getting close to another full release.* So maybe I should wait a bit. MB> I'm planning to get that latest one within days of its MB> availability, ... MB> However, not everyone has experienced this. ... MB> I've been too lazy to learn Virtual Folders. In that case, you may not be the best person to ask to explain them to me. MB> Everyone says they are a wonderful time-saver, however. I need to know more about them. All I can relate to at present is the virtual folder the Ticker (which I don't use) can create. Furthermore, most of the mail I receive is *never* read (which is why the Ticker doesn't serve my purpose - the volume of unread mail is too great). I use the Mail Dispatcher to Selectively Download as well as alert me to important incoming mail. For this reason, I don't need IMAP4 that much either and IAC, not all my account providers offer it. Despite Mic's example, I feel that adding html creation marks a detour from TB!'s original emphasis and the beginning of a wrong development path for TB! (which was motivated probably in order to cater to M$Express users in the USA, who are *not* oriented to TB!'s priorities, anyway. TB!'s principle competition / market consists of the apps used by by Eudora, Pegasus, Poco, Becky, PMMail and even Mozilla Messenger users - anyone *except* M$ addicts, IMO). MB> Go get v. 2.11.02. If it's not good for you, roll back to v. MB> 2.0.06. As I mentioned, I'm using v. 1.62, and no roll back is possible AFAIK, since the file format was changed - unless the original message files are saved, of course. At present, my prime motive for upgrading is that I have a corrupt TB! installment on my ThinkPad, due to a corrupt FAT32 Table in the Applications Partition have made me reinstall all of them in a slightly different manner (I lacked the original directory structure and installing a missing application can't be done), which resulted in AVG's plugin not working (virii aren't found until AVG's test is run, not while my email is downloaded, although very few get in anyway, because that's one of the things I check for when using the Mail Dispatcher - that's very easy if I select the "size" column). MB> Both are much superior to v. 1.62, as far as my needs go. YMMV. (Your MB> Mileage May Vary--am I turning into a Geek or what, Douglas? :) ) You are talking the talk. Now please explain in what way v 2.x is much superior to v. 1.62, in relation to your needs. What *are* your needs and how does v. 2 do a better job of meeting them? (This is an open question directed at any and all tbudlers who've gotten this far). TIA -- Douglas ________________________________________________ Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

