Mary Bull, [MB] wrote: > Sorry for the delay in conversation. We had a little "weather" here > overnight and real life took my attention for awhile here.
That's no problem. We all have to live in and around these lists. :grin: > Your advice is much appreciated. If you don't mind having one more > post about this, and don't mind to reply, how soon should this > discussion of "Subject: guidelines" have its thread changed? > Just taking it for an example. I've elected to change the subject of my reply to you because none of what I'm discussing has anything to do with upgrading from v1.6 to v2. None of what I discuss here would influence someone interested in a discussion looking at that question. We're now discussing when to change the subject for a message in an ongoing thread as well as the circumstances surrounding this change of subject. The same goes for your message (the one I'm now replying to) since it really has nothing to do with the original query Douglas made. My general rule is to ask myself when replying to a message in a thread, "Is this message related to the topic being discussed? Does it contribute to the original query?" Let's look at the time you originally chose to change the subject. This was in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . In that message you were pretty much on topic. You first mentioned that v2 was stable for you, a core concern with Douglas' issue on whether or not he should upgrade. You went on to mention an annoying bug and mentioning this bug was directly related to answering his qestion about the problems that currently existed with v2 which in turn would influence his decision to upgrade or not. IOW's, the essence of your response revolved around his question. I didn't really see a need to change the subject. > I don't mean to be facetious--I'm entirely serious about these > questions. I was, to speak boldly and frankly, appalled at the way > Maggie wrote to you in regard to your Mod post to her. I consider her > a friend, as I do you, and so I made no comment to either of you, > publicly or privately at the time. Ok. > Parent: Teacher, my child is sensitive. If he misbehaves, just slap > the child next to him, and he'll get the message. The public trouting is based on this principle. If a member sees another member being moderated, they'll take note of what provoked the moderator's interjection and avoid doing the same. > You know, I think my best course will be to change no subject lines > and wait for you to appear in your Mod hat. Take whatever course you like Mary. I mean that in a gentle way. :) If you prefer a wait and see approach then that's ok. I'm not here to have you standing and wondering what to do. You changed a subject and Douglas changed it back. You didn't find it unreasonable to change it while he did. But don't these disagreements happen all the time? I can't really prevent this sort of thing from happening since we all don't think the same. > I don't think this issue, contrary to what you have said, and I say > this most respectfully, is between me and Douglas alone. Your subject change, an attempt to obey list rules isn't worthy of a :trout:. It's worthy of commendation. Douglas' opinion that you inappropriately changed the subject is not at all a breach of rules. I do agree with him in this instance that the subject didn't have to be changed. He proceeds to change it back. I doubt I'd have done it that way but you know, we all tend to do some things differently. > He directly challenged me as to your Moderator's ruling. He implied > that I was infringing on your role. I didn't really see this. Any further discussion about this particular point, I'd prefer off-list. > I'm sensitive to my own feelings that I certainly do not want to move > in on your territory. You didn't. > You will just have to watch out for me. I'll be looking for the > gentlest kind of trouts. :) It's difficult to bring across our feeling with only trouts, but my trouts are always intended to be gentle, though taken seriously. :) -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com
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