Hi Johnson, I think the right discussion is: What kind of benefits we can obtain from online scientific social networking.
Pars On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:16 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Sometimes cheap means really cheap papers. Why not go into chat rooms > subscribe, enter into chat sessions on papers and then publish if that > is the objective of the authors. > Conferences are paid for because they require > a) resources (hired venues, meals, coffee, proceedings, etc) > b) review of papers which takes a lot of efforts and time > c) publication of conference proceedings - costs associated with this. > d) training of post graduate students on how to run and manage workshops > e) listening to experts in the specific feilds and interact with them one > on one. > > But besides these, face to face conferences permit normal networking > between researchers, industry and students which will mostly be lost > in online conferences. The real benefits from conferences are not just > the presentation of the power point slides but the ability to interact > with other researchers, gather new ideas on your line of research, form > new partnerships and expand your sphere of influence. > > Obviously you can tell by now that I do not support the idea. There are > already > too many uncited papers because they contain nothing to cite. Just like > fast food, we are seeking to reduce technical excellence to fast food > syndrome. > > Johnson > > > Quoting Emmanuel Lochin <[email protected]>: > > On 4 November 2011 14:50, Pars Mutaf <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Emmanuel Lochin < >>> [email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 4 November 2011 14:40, Pars Mutaf <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi Emmanuel, >>>> > >>>> > I don't understand. We say nothing against conferences although they >>>> are >>>> > obviously too expensive. >>>> >>>> Sorry Pars but you wrote : "Scientific conferences cost too much to >>>> the world ($500-1000 USD for registration not counting travel and >>>> hotel), are harmful to the planet (too much traveling) and not always >>>> useful" >>>> This is a strong statement isn't it ? >>>> >>> >>> Yes it is strong and it is true. >>> >> >> I believe this is a simplistic and narrow vision and this argument is >> obviously against conferences. Anyway ... as already said, "just do >> it". >> >> Regards >> >> EL >> >> (btw, where is the rest of the sentence? :-)) >>> >>> signers >>> >>> >>>> EL >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "This email and any attachments are confidential. They may contain >>>> legally >>>> privileged information or copyright material. You should not read, copy, >>>> use >>>> or disclose them without authorisation. If you are not an intended >>>> recipient, please contact us at once by return email and then delete >>>> both >>>> messages. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, >>>> data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or >>>> unauthorised >>>> amendment. This notice should not be removed" >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "This email and any attachments are confidential. They may contain legally >> privileged information or copyright material. You should not read, copy, >> use >> or disclose them without authorisation. If you are not an intended >> recipient, please contact us at once by return email and then delete both >> messages. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, >> data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised >> amendment. This notice should not be removed" >> ______________________________**_________________ >> IEEE Communications Society Tech. Committee on Computer Communications >> (TCCC) - for discussions on computer networking and communication. >> [email protected] >> https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/**cucslists/listinfo/tccc<https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/tccc> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ IEEE Communications Society Tech. Committee on Computer Communications (TCCC) - for discussions on computer networking and communication. [email protected] https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/tccc
