Yes, I think they are counting on the consumer not even knowing what a "lumen" 
is. Those 450 lumen bulbs would be great for a reading lamp or something, I 
suppose, but not for overhead lighting.

Allen B.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Frazier (TECHC)
Sent: 01/16/14 09:49 AM
To: tech-chat
Subject: Re: [tech-chat] Congress blocks light bulb efficiency standards

Hi all, Back when LED's were being discussed on ALE, I did some research on 
lumens ratings. I have a chart which I'll replicate here. The standard lumens 
ratings come from Wikipedia. I've also (arbitrarily) created a range column 
which shows a + / - 10% variance of what I would expect to see. I'm using 
dashes for spacing to try to maintain column alignment. Watts ----- Lumens 
----- -10% Lumens ----- + 10% Lumens 5 ---------- 25 ------------ 23 
----------------- 28 15 --------- 110 ----------- 99 ----------------- 121 25 
--------- 200 ----------- 180 ---------------- 220 40 --------- 500 ----------- 
450 ---------------- 550 60 --------- 850 ----------- 765 ---------------- 935 
75 --------- 1200 --------- 1080 --------------- 1320 100 -------- 1700 
--------- 1530 --------------- 1870 150 -------- 2850 --------- 2565 
--------------- 3135 You really have to watch out. There's a lot of ... er ... 
horsefeathers out there and what I consider to be fraudulent advertising. GE 
now has 
 a "60 W replacement" with SUBSTANTIALLY less lumens than a regular 60 W bulb 
and very bad life expectancy. There are also some "long life" light bulbs I saw 
at Walmart that have maybe double the life of normal, but no where near the 
10,000 hours of the heavy duty bulbs that Allen (I think) posted about before. 
PS. I recently got a 75 W equivalent 1100 lumen Cree from Home Depot. I wrote 
about it in another post. I like it, and it seems to be doing its job. I just 
noticed that the lumen rating is just barely within my spec range for a "75 W" 
bulb. But, it's enough. It wasn't cheap though, at $ 22. Sincerely, Ron Allen 
Beddingfield <[email protected]> wrote: >I've noticed a large number of really 
cheap low lumens 60 watt bulbs, >recently. Home Depot had some 60 watt bulbs 
from a brand I had never >heard of for really cheap...and they were 450 lumens 
rated. Dollar Tree >had packs of 3 60 watt 500-something lumens bulbs. For just 
over $2 per >4-pack, Dollar General still has pl
 enty of the good GE 800+ lumens >rated 60 watt bulbs. Lowes seems to be the 
best place to get Sylvania >incandescents in big sturdy cardboard boxes 
designed for stacking - >great for long term storage. > >Allen B. >----- 
Original Message ----- >From: William Bagwell >Sent: 01/16/14 07:36 AM >To: 
tech-chat >Subject: Re: [tech-chat] Congress blocks light bulb efficiency 
>standards > >Tail end of the second article had this quote, "In late December, 
Home >Depot told FoxNews.com it had a six-month stockpile before the supplies 
>ran out." I was in both a Home Depot and a Lowe's yesterday. Noticed >Home 
Depot seemed to be emphasizing new LED bulbs with end cap displays >in several 
places out side of the bulb department. Lowe's had three or >four *pallets* of 
incandescent bulbs in the main isle just past the >entrance. Wondering if this 
was their stock pile, and they decided to >put it all out at once before the 
public catches on about the law being >blocked. -- William ___________
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potential brevity if I'm typing on the touch screen. (PS - If you email me and 
don't get a quick response, you might want to call on the phone. I get about 
300 emails per day from alternate energy mailing lists and such. I don't always 
see new email messages very quickly.) Ron Frazier 770-205-9422 (O) Leave a 
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