Charlie, Do you have secure printing setup in Iprint? maybe thats forcing the second login box. I have iprint 5.32 clients as well as older clients and have never seen a iprint login box. we do not use secure print.
Aaron On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Charlie Niehaus < [email protected]> wrote: > I can tell you that the version of the iPrint client on the workstations > is 5.32 and I think the version on the server is 5.42. When we updated a > client on a workstation to the 5.42 version (which is what the server is > handing out when you ask it to do the install via the web interface) we are > still getting the secondary logins. At first we thought this solved the > problem since we were not being told of a second login on those computers, > but later the second login started popping up again. > > I have one classroom where I have one computer with the 5.32 iPrint client > installed and another computer with NO iPrint client installed. I have been > told that the computer with the 5.32 iPrint client is having the second > login issue, and the other computer without iPrint has not had the second > login pop up. Both of these computers are connected to the same switch so > loss of network traffic should be the same to both of them. I think I am > going to remove the iPrint client from a computer and see if the problem > goes away. I am thinking now I may need to uninstall iPrint and then > REinstall it and see if that fixes the problem. Maybe it is an "update" > issue with iPrint. > > Thanks in advance. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Christopher Shields <[email protected]> > *To:* Tech-Geeks Mailing List <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, September 10, 2010 8:32 AM > *Subject:* Re: [tech-geeks] Novell 10 - s econd login problem > > You should be able to differentiate if the second login box is a iprint > login screen or possibly ZCM or the Novell Client. Can you find that out? > Plus check the version of the iprint client that is on your server and > client. I'm not 100 percent sure where that is on the oes 2 linux box but > it's in the apache2 directory under htdocs on the sys volume of a netware > server. If you have a mismatched version and the iprint.ini on the server > says to ask to update the clients the client will then try to autoupdate > itself. > Chris > > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE:* This message including any attachment(s) is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is > addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and > exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message > is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for > delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please > notify Technical Assistance Center immediately by telephone at 630-466-4357 > or the relative office number and then delete it from your system. Thank > you. > >>> "Charlie Niehaus" <[email protected]> 9/9/2010 4:51 PM >>> > My Bad > Yes - it is Novell running on the SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 - with > EDirectory for Linux V8.8 SP5 > > As for the topology the computers are connecting into some older switches > in some cases, and then all back to a new Cisco switch that was installed by > the company that installed the security cameras. There does not seem to be > on one single switch that is causing the issue, it is building wide; but in > the end they ALL come back to the one switch that the server is connected > to. We did not seem to have this issue the first week of school (at least I > was not haering about it.) and after some updates on the server we started > weeing this. I think I have one box that had never had iPrint installed on > it and as far as I have been told it does NOT show this behavior. > > I am really thinking it is something related to iPrint. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Chris kuntzman <[email protected]> > *To:* Tech-Geeks Mailing List <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:15 AM > *Subject:* Re: [tech-geeks] Novell 10 - s econd login problem > > Charlie, > When you say Novell 10, are you talking about possible SUSE Linux 10? > Currently Novell Netware is at version 6.5 SP 8, if you went to the next > version > then you would need to convert everything to SUSE Linux 10 with Novell's > OES on top of that. > > As for your problem with the extra Novell login pop-up, could it be a > switch or something going > bad in an area of the building? Since you mentioned it's like they lost > connection, maybe the > switch or hub in that area is acting up, and causing random network drops. > > Since you mentioned that the username comes up with System in it, that is > something I've never seen before. > > Does this happen at any certain time of day? > You might have your users keep a log for a week, and write down the times > when this happens. It might help you see > if there is something else going on. > > Just some thoughts. > > > > > > > > Chris Kuntzman > Director of Computer Services > Taylorville Community Unit School District #3 > 217-287-1318 > [email protected] > > > >>> "Charlie Niehaus" <[email protected]> 9/8/2010 8:20 AM >>> > No Zenworks. A pretty simple network setup. One OU and since the > buildings > are connected by a fiber optic they are in effect one LAN (Just a switch > and > a fiber optic connecting them). Not even a router in the system other than > > the ICN router for the internet. Just 2 Novell 10 servers with all the > users in one tree, one OU etc. We have been using IPCop for a long time, > and are in the process of going to LightSpeed. (Not sure if that has any > effect on it.) I also now have a 3rd party vendor working on my network to > > do the LightSpeed install so he may have changed something he forgot to > mention. > > I think I will but the bullet and do the iPrint update on my HS server and > see if that starts the issue at the high school. ALL the users might as > well be mad at me. > Thanks in advance! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Zobel" <[email protected]> > To: "'Tech-Geeks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Novell 10 - s econd login problem > > > > This is with Zenworks right? Is it another windows username box or a > > Zenworks box? Do you have a DLU policy set? > > > > Daniel Zobel > > Director of Technology > > Heyworth CUSD#4 > > Direct Phone 309-473-2250 > > Grade School 309-473-2822 > > High School 309-473-2322 > > Unit Office 309-473-3727 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charlie Niehaus > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 9:20 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [tech-geeks] Novell 10 - s econd login problem > > > > Ok Novell gurus > > > > I recently went to Novell 10 and things seemed to be going pretty well. > > Two > > > > weeks ago I started getting calls from my Grade school staff saying that > > some systems are popping up a "second Novell login box" and they were > > wanting to know why. When I fianlly saw one of these boxes it looks like > > the box one gets when a connection has been severed from the network and > > then re-established. It is a login box from the Novell client with the > > user > > > > name "system" in the user box. I have told my people to re-enter THEIR > > user > > > > name and password and go on. It seems to be working for the most part. > > > > Now - I have 2 new servers and I am only seeing this on the grade school > > server. Also I have some windows 98 boxes on that server that have never > > seen this second popup box and some XP boxes in the lab that have not see > > > it > > > > either. > > > > The only difference I can see is that the grade school server had a few > > updates installed that the high school server did not. The grade school > > server updated the iPrint client, and that is what I suspect is at the > > heart > > > > of the issue. The gradeschool boxes are getting popups saying there is a > > new version of the iPrint client available and the computers that are not > > getting that second login box have not seen the "new iPrint client" popup > > > as > > > > far as I know. > > > > I have played with uninstalling NMAS (Since we do not use it) and some > > settings, but still no clear cut solution. Some of the things I have > > tried > > seemed to slow it down, but not get rid of it. Some users will go a day > > or > > 2 and not see the extra popup. > > > > I am also stepping through the updates on the high school server - a few > > ebery few days to see if I can isolate what sets this off. (My guess is > > it > > will be iPrint - but not sure why.) > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Charlie Niehaus > > Altamont Unit #10 Community Unit Schools > > 7 S. 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