On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 06:45:44PM +0200, Maxime Villard wrote: > Le 26/09/2019 à 18:15, Manuel Bouyer a écrit : > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 05:28:11PM +0200, Maxime Villard wrote: > > > Le 26/09/2019 à 17:25, Brian Buhrow a écrit : > > > > [...] > > > > One implication of your proposal is that you'll disable the > > > > autoload > > > > functionality, users will turn it back on, use it, and be more > > > > vulnerable > > > > than they are now because the primary developers aren't concern with > > > > making > > > > things work or secure anymore. > > > > > > Nobody is making compat_linux work, nobody is making compat_linux secure. > > My experience with a Linux program using forks and signals is that it does not > work at all; the children get killed randomly for no reason, the parent > doesn't > receive the signals, and after some time everything needs to be killed and > restarted to work again. Completely broken. I didn't manage to find where > exactly the problem was. > > Under reasonable assumptions, compat_linux indeed used to be the most > maintained compat layer we had. This isn't the case anymore. Under reasonable > assumptions as well, it has a marginal use case, and can be disabled. > > Maybe Manuel can understand that for a minute? Or is he still looking for > evidence that I'm not the Pope?
I'm conviced you're not the pope. You don't seem to understand that I use compat_linux on a regular basis. Probably not with the same softwares as you, but it does work for me. I forgot to mention, I also use it with opera. > > > Secure, I don't know. > > Well Manuel can pretend everything he wants, but when it comes to security and > compat_linux, we're entering the world of facts, and not reasonable > assumptions. I never contested your facts on this topic. "I don't know" just means that: I don't know. I've not looked at the code, nor at any changes in this area for a long time. -- Manuel Bouyer <bou...@antioche.eu.org> NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la difference --