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On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Ski Kacoroski <[email protected]> wrote:

> John,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
>
> On 06/27/2011 01:19 PM, John Stoffel wrote:
>
>> "Ski" == Ski Kacoroski<[email protected]>  writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think what you're trying to do isn't going to work well, if only
>>
>> because NFS and NTFS have such different permissions models.  The
>> closest you might get is to use NFSv4, but I'm sure there are still
>> problems there.
>>
>
> Agreed
>
>
>
>> In my experience, mixed mode qtrees leads to all kinds of hell,
>> because a user applies NTFS ACLs, then a unix user tries to access the
>> file and can't, even though the Unix permissions look fine, because
>> they NTFS ACLs deny the access.
>>
>> And it's hell to debug.  In this case, it might be smarted to use your
>> Unix web server to access the Netapp purely through CIFS, and to give
>> the web server process access.
>>
>
> I agree with you on Mixed mode.  I played with it over 10 years ago and it
> was a mess back then.
>
>
>
>>
>> Ski>  PS: If you have answers to these specific questions that would be
>> helpful:
>>
>> Ski>  1. Can I use widelinks between head nodes and have cifs follow
>> Ski>  the wide link ok (e.g. put /Student on node1 and put /Staff and
>> Ski>  /Class on node1 for leveling the load).
>>
>> You mean /Staff and /Class on node2, right?  Are you clustering your
>> Netapps?  If so, I *think* widelinks should work, but honestly I odn't
>> know and I don't have a system to test on.  Sorry.
>>
>
> Perhaps I will try opening a call with the NetApp tech support :).
>
>
>
>> Ski>  2. What settings do I need so a process can write via NFS and
>> Ski>  folks can read the files from CIFS.
>>
>> Do you want to allow the users to re-set permissions from the CIFS
>> side?  And do your usernames/password match between NFS/CIFS land?
>>
>
> I already keep the passwords in sync between unix and AD.  The users do not
> make any permission changes.  I have a unix database that writes out reports
> to our current NAS via NFS.  Users can then see the reports via CIFS.  Users
> can also put spreadsheets into an upload directory via CIFs and the unix
> database will read them in.
>
>
>
>> Again, I'd probably just NOT share the volume via NFS that's running
>> CIFS and instead use smbfs on linux (or some other Unixy OS) to mount
>> the CIFS filesystem.
>>
>
> I could do this I suppose.  Just lots more work on the cut over.
>
>
>
>> Another reason I suggest all this is that you're in a school
>> environment, and students tend to have lots of time to spend looking
>> for holes in your security.  So making your setup as *simple* as
>> possible is key.  Because through simplicity comes better management
>> and it's easier to verify you got things locked down properly.
>>
>
> I agree with KISS.  I was just trying to get as close to what we have now
> because other than the NAS system not being supported any more, it works
> pretty well.
>
> cheers,
>
> ski
>
>
> --
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>
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