On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dan Ritter <d...@randomstring.org> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 02:03:36PM -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >> Ditto, this is the life of the System Administrator: here is the box, >> here is the application, go... After doing this for 20+ years the >> sermons about proper development and design techniques get tired; it >> may all be true, but it doesn't address the facts on the ground. And >> developers do not listen to System Administrators, what would we know? > > Then you have a dysfunctional organization, and you should work > to fix it or move on to some place better. > > To give you hope: at my workplace, sysadmins are routinely > consulted by developers about hardware, performance, and general > requirements in advance of changes.
Easy to say, not so easy to do. A lot of what Adam talks about is a cultural issue that takes time, energy, politics, perseverance to change. System Administration ain't just routers and CPUs. -n -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby <nhr...@gmail.com> metaphysically wrinkle-free ------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Tech mailing list Tech@lists.lopsa.org https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/