On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dan Ritter <d...@randomstring.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 02:03:36PM -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>> Ditto, this is the life of the System Administrator: here is the box,
>> here is the application, go...  After doing this for 20+ years the
>> sermons about proper development and design techniques get tired;  it
>> may all be true, but it doesn't address the facts on the ground.  And
>> developers do not listen to System Administrators, what would we know?
>
> Then you have a dysfunctional organization, and you should work
> to fix it or move on to some place better.
>
> To give you hope: at my workplace, sysadmins are routinely
> consulted by developers about hardware, performance, and general
> requirements in advance of changes.

Easy to say, not so easy to do.  A lot of what Adam talks about is a
cultural issue that takes time, energy, politics, perseverance to
change.

System Administration ain't just routers and CPUs.

-n
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