Yves Dorfsman wrote:
> Richard Chycoski wrote:
>
>
>> AD is solid, scalable, and well supported. There *are* some gotchas 
>> if you are looking for 100% LDAP compatibility, but for authc/authz 
>> (login, groups, etc.) nothing else performs quite as well. (I do hope 
>> that Open LDAP catches up!)
>
> What is the advantage of going ldap against AD vs. using kerberos ?
>
If you go with LDAP + Kerberos (AD or other), you get portable 
authentication (Ticket Granting Tickets) that allow you to obtain many 
services with a single sign on. In some environments this can mean 
single-sign-on-for-everything, in others it at least reduces the number 
of times that you need to supply your password. Simple LDAP doesn't do 
this. Beware, however, that this can expose credentials on 
poorly-secured, shared machines, something that is a problem with just 
about every system that uses stored credentials.

Chris Reisor wrote:
> NDS became eDirectory.  It hasn't been NDS for many years. 
Yes, but that initial product was NDS, which was 'working' for several 
years before AD came on the market. By the time it became eDirectory, 
Novell had already lost the market. And having worked on NDS in the 
Netware3.x/4.x days, I can understand why they didn't take the market by 
storm - if you think AD is 'proprietary', NDS was 'cloistered'. Most of 
the tools that were needed to make it work were not documented, and at 
one point I had to spend many hours on the phone, even with the help of 
our 'platinum reseller' (otherwise it would have been *days*), just to 
get the magic incantation to remove an orphaned OU. And it was as simple 
as adding two or three operands to a command that was already on the 
system! It was also extremely difficult to get useful programming 
documentation to interact with NDS - I did eventually write an NLM to 
run on Netware 4.11 that could build user accounts synced to an external 
data source, but it was like pulling teeth to get the API to do anything 
more than the basics. (Sure you can make an account - but you want it to 
have some attributes? So sad for you. :-) I finally found an internal 
newsgroup support forum at Novell where it appeared that the one, lone 
Novell employee who was both cluefull and also empowered to speak to the 
unwashed masses could be found. This combination was virtual unobtainium!

I found NDS to be very fragile - but then, early AD was somewhat fragile 
too. Fortunately, I didn't have to work with it directly until Win2k3, 
by which time it was very solid. I left Novell behind (changed jobs) 
just as eDirectory was being released. Instead, I got to work with *oh 
so wonderful* NIS+ (yet another proprietary directory service not ready 
for prime time :-).


- Richard
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