On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:38:32 +0100 Marc Espie <es...@nerim.net> wrote:
> Basically, we have a pattern, mostly observed with kde (and a bit with > gnome) which is really harmful for us. > They occupy a few people in our team FULLTIME with respect to gnome, they're > the reason we still DON'T have a full kde4 in our tree (hopefully to be > addressed shortly), and they're the reason why sometimes we do drop old > stuff (like killing gtk+1, and people really wanting to kill some gtk2/qt3 > stuff). > It's also quickly turning Posix and Unix into a travesty: either you have > the linux goodies, or you don't. And if you don't, you can forget anything > modern... > Not to disparage the hard work by Antoine and others on Gnome and KDE, but if upstream are going to entwine their code with non-standard OSs, then why bother with them? If everyone but the mainstream Linux distros dropped their projects, it seems a more likely way of getting through to the upstream developers than joining their project or sending them emails. I use Joe's Window Manager, it compiles in less than a minute straight from the sources with no patching or tweaking. I don't have semi-transparent windowbars and I had to make a couple of tweaks so I could hear a "beep" when I get an IM, apart from that, what can a "modern" window manager do that is worth the some porter's pain (and extra 10-20% cpu consumption to run) anyway? Stuff like X is a different matter, if upstream must be battled, I would say send the troops to defend what is hard to do without, not what is easy to do without. Brett.
