On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 04:45:17PM +0100, Lars von den Driesch wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Marc Espie <es...@nerim.net> wrote:
> 
> >
> > This is a mindset we need to fight, and this has to be a grass-roots
> > movement.
> >
> 
> I agree with most of your statement, but for a grass-root movement you
> will need to attract a lot of people. Otherwise you will move exactly
> *nothing*. And let's be honest here - some people involved in OpenBSD
> are not the most open-minded people in FOSS. They behave so elitist
> they scare a lot of folks away and to gain momentum you will need to
> deal also with people that are probably not as knowledegable as you
> might want. If you want people to gain traction you will need to
> reduce some standards...
> 
> just my 2 ct
> 
> Lars
Actually, I am just giving "food for thought", it's a long-time issue
I've seen creep up again and again... so I've tried to formalize it up
to some extent. I'm not going to go out and do anything such as organize
such a movement: I already don't have enough time to do everything I wish
to do, and I'm pretty sure my time is much better employed writing code and
fixing issues within OpenBSD, or going to conferences and explaining to people
why what we do is still relevant. Also, my day job involves some teaching (a
lot), so doing more of that is not really fun.

So, hey, do whatever you want with that. Apart from the proverbial curmudgeons,
there are LOTS of nice people in the OpenBSD developer community, who are
fairly open to a lot of stuff...  I wouldn't be there if that weren't the
case.

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