Hi Dane, nice to have another hearing in pared person on this list. Two
things I'd like to ask you.
1. When you say I can get the jaws voices to work with NVDA the thing is how
can I do this?
2. You mentioned that you have fiddled around with espeak voices. Can you
tell me what voices you like using names, us or UK, pitch etc.
Thanks
Daniel
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From: "Dane trethowan" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 10:57 AM
To: "Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm!" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: JAWS 13: Convenient OCR
I have no trouble in following your logic in the message below.
I'm sure that the OCR function in JAWS 13 will develop as JAWS has done
over time, look in history books back to the first motor cars on the road
and you wonder how people back in those days put up with them, compare one
of those to a motor car on the road today <smile>.
the main problem for me with JAWS is the SMA thing they have, to me its a
fake and a sham. System Access to Go doesn't have a SMA, you buy the
product and that's it, congratulations! you have their product along with
a lifetime's worth of upgrades and that to me is exactly how it should be
when buying a Screen Reading package or any other product. I do realise
that a lot of software products don't have lifetime upgrades included in
their purchase price but having said that? Well the purchase prices and
upgrade pricing is usually so low that you don't mind handing the pocket
money over to receive the benefits any upgrade may offer <smile>.
As for NVDA and your hearing impairment? I can certainly sympathise with
you as I have a hearing impairment myself but I give you some good news I
hope, have you ever considered using one of your JAWS voices with NVDA? If
you have both Screen Readers on your system then you should have no
trouble in setting NVDA up to use the JAWS voices.
I use NVDA on all my Windows PC systems - 3 in total - and by fiddling
with E-Speak, I managed to find some settings which sound rather nice, its
just trial and error.
On 1/10/2011 7:37 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
Well for me, my view for what its worth I didn't really care much for the
O.C.R with Jaws. Like Eric said at present it might not solve captures.
That doesn't mean it won't in the future. I admit I do use jaws and have
my own copy of Jaws 12 but at present I haven't found any reason why I
need to upgrade to 13 when I can use NVDA for free.
Just to make sure before people get the wrong inpression I am not saying
that I wouldn't pay the money for Jaws upgrades its just at this moment
in tim well lets say I'm not hooked on a particular feature there by
parting my cash thinking "oh yeah! I really like this new thing in jaws
I'm going to get it!" Also as a final note I like jaws mainly for
eloquence but in my case I have a hearing impairment which is why I use
it when I get a little tired of NVDA's Espeak.
Thanks for reading
Daniel e
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From: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 10:43 PM
To: "Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm!"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: JAWS 13: Convenient OCR
I should also mention that there is a lot of discussion on this
particular topic over on the GW-Info list <smile..
On 01/10/2011, at 5:51 AM, David McLean wrote:
Actually it doesn't solve capchas, or would be unlikely to. They said
as much in the last fs cast.
On Sep 30, 2011, at 3:47 PM, Mary Stores wrote:
Hello,
Remember last week or so, there were so messages about JAWS 13 and how
it would help solve CAPCHAs? I remember Dane, you had said that
Freedom Scientific were once again behind, that there were already
other programs that do that.
I am listening to the FS58 podcast. It does not just help solve
CAPCHAs, this feature called Convenient OCR, but it also reads PDFs
that are just images, or text conveyed as graphics on web pages with
just a few simple keystrokes.
Now that I know more about this feature, I am really excited about it.
Mary
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