he U.K. voice is the one I think I'm using.

to change to one of the JAWS voices with NVDA, you'll have to poke about in both Voice and Synthesiser settings from the Preferences menu of NVDA.



On 1/10/2011 9:14 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
Hi Dane, nice to have another hearing in pared person on this list. Two things I'd like to ask you. 1. When you say I can get the jaws voices to work with NVDA the thing is how can I do this? 2. You mentioned that you have fiddled around with espeak voices. Can you tell me what voices you like using names, us or UK, pitch etc.

Thanks

Daniel

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From: "Dane trethowan" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 10:57 AM
To: "Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm!" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: JAWS 13: Convenient OCR

I have no trouble in following your logic in the message below.

I'm sure that the OCR function in JAWS 13 will develop as JAWS has done over time, look in history books back to the first motor cars on the road and you wonder how people back in those days put up with them, compare one of those to a motor car on the road today <smile>.

the main problem for me with JAWS is the SMA thing they have, to me its a fake and a sham. System Access to Go doesn't have a SMA, you buy the product and that's it, congratulations! you have their product along with a lifetime's worth of upgrades and that to me is exactly how it should be when buying a Screen Reading package or any other product. I do realise that a lot of software products don't have lifetime upgrades included in their purchase price but having said that? Well the purchase prices and upgrade pricing is usually so low that you don't mind handing the pocket money over to receive the benefits any upgrade may offer <smile>.

As for NVDA and your hearing impairment? I can certainly sympathise with you as I have a hearing impairment myself but I give you some good news I hope, have you ever considered using one of your JAWS voices with NVDA? If you have both Screen Readers on your system then you should have no trouble in setting NVDA up to use the JAWS voices.

I use NVDA on all my Windows PC systems - 3 in total - and by fiddling with E-Speak, I managed to find some settings which sound rather nice, its just trial and error.



On 1/10/2011 7:37 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
Well for me, my view for what its worth I didn't really care much for the O.C.R with Jaws. Like Eric said at present it might not solve captures. That doesn't mean it won't in the future. I admit I do use jaws and have my own copy of Jaws 12 but at present I haven't found any reason why I need to upgrade to 13 when I can use NVDA for free. Just to make sure before people get the wrong inpression I am not saying that I wouldn't pay the money for Jaws upgrades its just at this moment in tim well lets say I'm not hooked on a particular feature there by parting my cash thinking "oh yeah! I really like this new thing in jaws I'm going to get it!" Also as a final note I like jaws mainly for eloquence but in my case I have a hearing impairment which is why I use it when I get a little tired of NVDA's Espeak.

Thanks for reading

Daniel e

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From: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 10:43 PM
To: "Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm!" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: JAWS 13: Convenient OCR

I should also mention that there is a lot of discussion on this particular topic over on the GW-Info list <smile..


On 01/10/2011, at 5:51 AM, David McLean wrote:

Actually it doesn't solve capchas, or would be unlikely to. They said as much in the last fs cast.
On Sep 30, 2011, at 3:47 PM, Mary Stores wrote:

Hello,

Remember last week or so, there were so messages about JAWS 13 and how it would help solve CAPCHAs? I remember Dane, you had said that Freedom Scientific were once again behind, that there were already other programs that do that.

I am listening to the FS58 podcast. It does not just help solve CAPCHAs, this feature called Convenient OCR, but it also reads PDFs that are just images, or text conveyed as graphics on web pages with just a few simple keystrokes.

Now that I know more about this feature, I am really excited about it.

Mary




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