Hi Chris

My understanding is that I'm going to be given a dongle so that I can use Jaws 
and learn how it all works.  I'm just starting to do a bit of reading.  I don't 
really want to install any version I download just yet because I'm not sure 
whether it's necessary.  I.e., whether Jaws is supplied on the thumb drive or 
whether that's just used to validate the license when it loads.

Yes, I know that Jaws and Office do work well.  To be absolutely fair, so does 
Window-Eyes work well with Office.  I haven't tried PowerPoint or Excel because 
I've never had need of them.  But that might change if I get this job and that 
is my primary motivation for going the Jaws route.

As for not being as productive on the Mac, I'll reserve judgement on that.  
It's definitely true that there are some areas of Pages which are lacking as 
far as the VoiceOver user is concerned.  Again though, I do acknowledge fully 
that Freedom Scientific has done a very good job of its Office accessibility 
implementation.  I've never actually used it as I've said, but I have heard 
demos of it and there are aspects of Office which I never managed to use fully 
with Window-Eyes, but they work fine with Jaws.

After they resold my serial number and SMA to a customer and refused to 
acknowledge my loss even though my details were tied to the serial number they 
resold, I kind of went away from Jaws and never bothered to keep up to date 
with it.  But now, well, my needs are different.  I am hoping that I can get a 
job in a local school, and I've also put in for one at a college, as they are 
shortly going to be advertising exactly the same job.  Also, the school where I 
went a couple of weeks ago are keen to employ me because of my technical skills 
and knowledge.  That isn't me being big-headed or anything, it's what they said 
to me.  But to get back to the point, they currently use Jaws on all of their 
Windows machines so I need to learn how to use it so that I can hit the ground 
running.

Gordon

On 31 Jul 2012, at 08:57, Chris Moore <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Gordon,

It all depends where you intend to use JAWS. If you are a simple end user and 
only require the CD to install on one machine, then you can go down that route 
and activate your CD key via the Internet.

Enterprise environments prefer to go down the dongle route which means you can 
then use the dongle on any machine and not worry about installing certificates 
etc.  I think it is very old hat too, but there you go.

I live in fear of losing my JAWS dongle.

Love it or hate it, you can't argue how well JAWS and Office work together.  I 
really wish I could be as productive in an Office way on my Mac.

Chris 
On 31 Jul 2012, at 05:29, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:

> Hi Mike
> 
> Sorry I'm a bit confused here.  Yes, naturally I plan to review the basic 
> documentation.  I take it that's what you're suggesting?  To tell you the 
> honest truth it goes against the grain for me to start reading manuals, but 
> on this occasion I may have no option.  Jaws is a strange beast to me, but 
> it's one I have to master, like it or not.  Actually though I do have another 
> question.  I thought that Freedom had moved away fro the use of dongles.  But 
> my assistant is telling me that they are going to arrange to get me a dongle 
> to license Jaws.  Is that still used as a method of copy protection?  I 
> thought it was now all Internet activation?
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 30 Jul 2012, at 19:07, mike <mmstopk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Ben a jfw user sense I was 3 the uses guide is a good place to start and any
> questions you have I should be ablt to help you with.
> 
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> 
> Hi all
> 
> OK, so now my possible future career in the educational IT field requires me
> to have a working knowledge of Jaws.  Arrangements ares being made for me to
> have a working copy of Jaws.  Anybody got any tips as to where to start on
> the learning curve?  Jaws goes a little bit against the grain with me, but
> the fact is it is still the market leader in education. establishments.
> Anyway, any starter tips appreciated.
> 
> Gordon
> 
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