Hi Chris That's a very good point. I'll make sure to ask them when they come over on Thursday. What's happening is that I now have contacts with local council groups who I never even knew existed. There's a group here called "Action For Blind People", and another group called "Steps". Their aim is to help people get back into employment or voluntary work which may be a prelude to employment. Steps is the organisation supporting me, and I am fortunate because the bloke who I first dealt with about 18 months ago has now been promoted to Service Development Manager. Ordinarily he doesn't do support directly any more, but he's taking my case on as he dealt with me in the past. He's proving to be an invaluable help. Anyway, between them they are organising a few things for me. One of which is a Jaws dongle so that I can use the software and get to know it better. The idea being that when I start the job, or whatever job I end up getting, I hit the ground running. They are very c onfident that I will get the job, as the preliminary interview went much much better than any of us expected it too and they have actually told us that they are keen to employ me.
Sorry for the waffle, but I'm keen to get this started and I want to learn to use Jaws along with other things in Windows again. Gordon On 31 Jul 2012, at 10:12, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote: Gordon, You will be fine, it is fairly easy to pick up. you are fine to download the latest version to play with in demo mode. The dongle is only used for validation purposes and does not include a copy of the software on the drive (at least mine does not). It might be useful to check which version of JAWS your potential employer is currently using. For example I use JAWS 12 which is not the latest and my dongle only allows me to use JAWS 12. so when I installed JAWS on my mac, I downloaded the exact same version so the dongle would work on that too. The other reason why it is useful to know is because features and the way the settings are different in older versions. Chris On 31 Jul 2012, at 09:19, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Chris > > My understanding is that I'm going to be given a dongle so that I can use > Jaws and learn how it all works. I'm just starting to do a bit of reading. > I don't really want to install any version I download just yet because I'm > not sure whether it's necessary. I.e., whether Jaws is supplied on the thumb > drive or whether that's just used to validate the license when it loads. > > Yes, I know that Jaws and Office do work well. To be absolutely fair, so > does Window-Eyes work well with Office. I haven't tried PowerPoint or Excel > because I've never had need of them. But that might change if I get this job > and that is my primary motivation for going the Jaws route. > > As for not being as productive on the Mac, I'll reserve judgement on that. > It's definitely true that there are some areas of Pages which are lacking as > far as the VoiceOver user is concerned. Again though, I do acknowledge fully > that Freedom Scientific has done a very good job of its Office accessibility > implementation. I've never actually used it as I've said, but I have heard > demos of it and there are aspects of Office which I never managed to use > fully with Window-Eyes, but they work fine with Jaws. > > After they resold my serial number and SMA to a customer and refused to > acknowledge my loss even though my details were tied to the serial number > they resold, I kind of went away from Jaws and never bothered to keep up to > date with it. But now, well, my needs are different. I am hoping that I can > get a job in a local school, and I've also put in for one at a college, as > they are shortly going to be advertising exactly the same job. Also, the > school where I went a couple of weeks ago are keen to employ me because of my > technical skills and knowledge. That isn't me being big-headed or anything, > it's what they said to me. But to get back to the point, they currently use > Jaws on all of their Windows machines so I need to learn how to use it so > that I can hit the ground running. > > Gordon > > On 31 Jul 2012, at 08:57, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > > Gordon, > > It all depends where you intend to use JAWS. If you are a simple end user and > only require the CD to install on one machine, then you can go down that > route and activate your CD key via the Internet. > > Enterprise environments prefer to go down the dongle route which means you > can then use the dongle on any machine and not worry about installing > certificates etc. I think it is very old hat too, but there you go. > > I live in fear of losing my JAWS dongle. > > Love it or hate it, you can't argue how well JAWS and Office work together. > I really wish I could be as productive in an Office way on my Mac. > > Chris > On 31 Jul 2012, at 05:29, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Mike >> >> Sorry I'm a bit confused here. Yes, naturally I plan to review the basic >> documentation. I take it that's what you're suggesting? To tell you the >> honest truth it goes against the grain for me to start reading manuals, but >> on this occasion I may have no option. Jaws is a strange beast to me, but >> it's one I have to master, like it or not. Actually though I do have >> another question. I thought that Freedom had moved away fro the use of >> dongles. But my assistant is telling me that they are going to arrange to >> get me a dongle to license Jaws. Is that still used as a method of copy >> protection? I thought it was now all Internet activation? >> >> Gordon >> >> On 30 Jul 2012, at 19:07, mike <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Ben a jfw user sense I was 3 the uses guide is a good place to start and any >> questions you have I should be ablt to help you with. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith >> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 12:30 PM >> To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! >> Subject: Jaws for Windows >> >> Hi all >> >> OK, so now my possible future career in the educational IT field requires me >> to have a working knowledge of Jaws. Arrangements ares being made for me to >> have a working copy of Jaws. Anybody got any tips as to where to start on >> the learning curve? Jaws goes a little bit against the grain with me, but >> the fact is it is still the market leader in education. establishments. >> Anyway, any starter tips appreciated. >> >> Gordon >> >> >> ======================================= >> >> The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free >> >> To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web >> pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at >> either of the following websites: >> >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html >> >> Or: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> >> you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. 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