Gordon, I just wanted to say good luck with today. You have a great deal of knowledge and expertise to offer. Let me know how you get on.
Cheers Chris On 31 Jul 2012, at 14:19, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Chris > > That's a very good point. I'll make sure to ask them when they come over on > Thursday. What's happening is that I now have contacts with local council > groups who I never even knew existed. There's a group here called "Action > For Blind People", and another group called "Steps". Their aim is to help > people get back into employment or voluntary work which may be a prelude to > employment. Steps is the organisation supporting me, and I am fortunate > because the bloke who I first dealt with about 18 months ago has now been > promoted to Service Development Manager. Ordinarily he doesn't do support > directly any more, but he's taking my case on as he dealt with me in the > past. He's proving to be an invaluable help. Anyway, between them they are > organising a few things for me. One of which is a Jaws dongle so that I can > use the software and get to know it better. The idea being that when I start > the job, or whatever job I end up getting, I hit the ground running. They > are very c > onfident that I will get the job, as the preliminary interview went much much > better than any of us expected it too and they have actually told us that > they are keen to employ me. > > Sorry for the waffle, but I'm keen to get this started and I want to learn to > use Jaws along with other things in Windows again. > > Gordon > > > On 31 Jul 2012, at 10:12, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > > Gordon, > > You will be fine, it is fairly easy to pick up. you are fine to download the > latest version to play with in demo mode. The dongle is only used for > validation purposes and does not include a copy of the software on the drive > (at least mine does not). > > It might be useful to check which version of JAWS your potential employer is > currently using. For example I use JAWS 12 which is not the latest and my > dongle only allows me to use JAWS 12. so when I installed JAWS on my mac, I > downloaded the exact same version so the dongle would work on that too. The > other reason why it is useful to know is because features and the way the > settings are different in older versions. > > Chris > > On 31 Jul 2012, at 09:19, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Chris >> >> My understanding is that I'm going to be given a dongle so that I can use >> Jaws and learn how it all works. I'm just starting to do a bit of reading. >> I don't really want to install any version I download just yet because I'm >> not sure whether it's necessary. I.e., whether Jaws is supplied on the >> thumb drive or whether that's just used to validate the license when it >> loads. >> >> Yes, I know that Jaws and Office do work well. To be absolutely fair, so >> does Window-Eyes work well with Office. I haven't tried PowerPoint or Excel >> because I've never had need of them. But that might change if I get this >> job and that is my primary motivation for going the Jaws route. >> >> As for not being as productive on the Mac, I'll reserve judgement on that. >> It's definitely true that there are some areas of Pages which are lacking as >> far as the VoiceOver user is concerned. Again though, I do acknowledge >> fully that Freedom Scientific has done a very good job of its Office >> accessibility implementation. I've never actually used it as I've said, but >> I have heard demos of it and there are aspects of Office which I never >> managed to use fully with Window-Eyes, but they work fine with Jaws. >> >> After they resold my serial number and SMA to a customer and refused to >> acknowledge my loss even though my details were tied to the serial number >> they resold, I kind of went away from Jaws and never bothered to keep up to >> date with it. But now, well, my needs are different. I am hoping that I >> can get a job in a local school, and I've also put in for one at a college, >> as they are shortly going to be advertising exactly the same job. Also, the >> school where I went a couple of weeks ago are keen to employ me because of >> my technical skills and knowledge. That isn't me being big-headed or >> anything, it's what they said to me. But to get back to the point, they >> currently use Jaws on all of their Windows machines so I need to learn how >> to use it so that I can hit the ground running. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 31 Jul 2012, at 08:57, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Gordon, >> >> It all depends where you intend to use JAWS. If you are a simple end user >> and only require the CD to install on one machine, then you can go down that >> route and activate your CD key via the Internet. >> >> Enterprise environments prefer to go down the dongle route which means you >> can then use the dongle on any machine and not worry about installing >> certificates etc. I think it is very old hat too, but there you go. >> >> I live in fear of losing my JAWS dongle. >> >> Love it or hate it, you can't argue how well JAWS and Office work together. >> I really wish I could be as productive in an Office way on my Mac. >> >> Chris >> On 31 Jul 2012, at 05:29, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike >>> >>> Sorry I'm a bit confused here. Yes, naturally I plan to review the basic >>> documentation. I take it that's what you're suggesting? To tell you the >>> honest truth it goes against the grain for me to start reading manuals, but >>> on this occasion I may have no option. Jaws is a strange beast to me, but >>> it's one I have to master, like it or not. Actually though I do have >>> another question. I thought that Freedom had moved away fro the use of >>> dongles. But my assistant is telling me that they are going to arrange to >>> get me a dongle to license Jaws. Is that still used as a method of copy >>> protection? I thought it was now all Internet activation? >>> >>> Gordon >>> >>> On 30 Jul 2012, at 19:07, mike <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Ben a jfw user sense I was 3 the uses guide is a good place to start and any >>> questions you have I should be ablt to help you with. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith >>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 12:30 PM >>> To: Techno-Chat ... 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