Hi Mary

I'm not running it directly from the website, I never do that.  I downloaded 
the software to a local directory, then ran it from there.

The installer spent a good 20 minutes clicking at me, then it finally prompted 
me to do a restart.  No speech unless I had Window-Eyes loaded at the start of 
the process.  In fact, it took ages even after the restart to start talking.  
It gave me the license text, and all the usual installation questions.  Then 
when I clicked on the "Install" button, nothing happened.  It just sat there 
and then timed out on itself.  I left it for 3 hours after the timeout then 
loaded Window-Eyes to see what was going on.  The installer was sitting there 
doing absolutely nothing.   It even didn't move when I eventually clicked 
Cancel, and I had to do a forced restart.

Gordon

On 5 Aug 2012, at 18:17, Mary Stores <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,

I have also been able to indepently install JAWS on a computer, and The way our 
setup works for JAWS is that no matter what workstation you are on at the 
university, you can log on and use JAWS as long as you are registered with the 
disabled student division and have talked to us and said you wanted to use it.

However, I have noticed with JAWS 12 and 13 that a lot of times when getting 
JAWS installed from the web site, that the installed version you get is corrupt 
and you have to run a repair on it. It has happened with me and at least two 
other students in the past year, one as recently as last Friday.

Mary
Mary

Quoting Øyvind Lode - Forums <[email protected]>:

> Well put!
> I've installed JAWS several times without problems.
> But you Gordon don't have the time for JAWS troubleshooting right now.
> Contact the school to get a working installation up and running so
> you can learn how to use JAWS first and then learn how to
> troubleshoot at a later stage.
> 
> As I said I've never ran into any problems installing JAWS so I'm not
> sure what's going on on your machine.
> 
> I'm a happy JAWS user but no FS fan boy for sure.
> 
> I tried Window-Eyes briefly back in 2007 when I no longer could use
> magnification to work efficiently.
> I must say that I found Window-Eyes web browsing and how it handled
> Internet to be a joke when I got my hands on a computer running JAWS
> 8.
> 
> I've been a JAWS-user since then.
> 
> I guess that have improved now though but I have not used Window-Eyes
> since I briefly tested it out back in 2007.
> 
> Yesterday I said I would love to use NVDA and I actually installed it
> to try it out again.
> 
> Yeah my HumanWare Brailliant BI 40 had built in support but the
> Braille support in NVDA is still in the stone age compared to JAWS.
> 
> I opened a Cygwin terminal/console and logged in to one of my Linux
> servers and were quite happy.
> But I quickly discovered that I couldn't pan/scroll the Braille
> display with NVDA.
> 
> So NVDA is still useless for me but speech worked fine in the console though.
> 
> So I'm still a JAWS-user and it's time to renew my SMA again since my
> current SMA only allows me to run JAWS 13.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Martin G.
> McCormick
> Sent: 5. august 2012 15:54
> To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm!
> Subject: Re: Jaws Installer, absolutely pathetic!
> 
>       The question at the top of the list that begs answering
> is How, on Earth, does Mr. John Q. Public or Ms. Jane Q. Public
> who happens to also be blind, independently get JAWS installed on a Windows
> system?
> 
>       I am talking, now, like the teacher I might have been
> back when I was studying for that profession in the late
> seventies.
> 
>       One of my very respected instructors had spent several
> years in the country of Thailand and had helped them set up
> their electrical worker training program and also had been
> instrumental in writing a national electrical code for Thailand.
> 
>       What my advisor was surprised about was the fact that
> there was a major electrical supply house literally right across
> the street from the vocational school where they tought
> the electrical trades. There was absolutely no professional contact
> or networking between the people who worked in the electrical
> business and the school. They didn't even know each other's
> names.
> 
>       The point he was making was that you are time and money
> ahead to network with local resources as they are familiar with
> the area you are training for.
> 
>       You are having trouble getting a working JAWS
> installation. There is probably somebody at some place in the UK
> who can do this in their sleep and does it every day for
> agencies or clients in the UK who are blind.
> 
>       What if, for example, the school system uses one of
> their servers to image all the JAWS work stations in a computer
> lab or similar place? They might let you bring your computer
> there and image it along with the rest. Freedom Scientific has
> what they call site licenses where they do these sorts of things
> for students.
> 
>       The lab instructors, here, don't know JAWS from Adam,
> but they image computers from a master server and can blow a
> JAWS installation from cold metal in minutes. You, the student,
> just walk in and they tell you where the JAWS work station is
> and you log in.
> 
>       Oklahoma State University has a site license from
> Freedom Scientific and I bet there is a similar setup in school
> systems or rehabilitation agencies in the UK.
> 
>       Since you are pressed for time, I wouldn't sweat the
> details. Since a job is on the line, I'd at least get started
> with a known good system. You will soon be showing them things
> they didn't know but first, let's get a working system.
> 
> Martin



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