Just have got to remember that these programs are working
in "History" and not a concept. So , when a Virus makes it's
rounds ; it will get a number of folks until the Programmers
of such gets wind of it and writes a 'trap' for it , then a
recovery later on. It depends on the speed of everything as
how many it gets. Did get that latest virus about 6-7 times
and into the 'bin' it goes without a second though. Name ?
Forget it , it has so many different names on the
'attachment'.
  Been lucky so far , I use hard-headed common sense ( or is
it uncommon ? ) and never open any attachment that I don't
know the Name , Rank , Serial Number , and his Momma.
After all of the "Hoopla" about that 'stuff' I am amazed
that anybody with a wee bit of experience and has the
mentality of a Daft Idiot would even open it ! BTW , no
anti-virus here ( knock-knock on wood ).
Best: Eugene

Tel-Tek Electronics wrote:
> 
> Bil:
>         Anytime a Virus Program is "FREE", of course it will get more
> votes then something you have to pay for.
>         When someone takes the time to write an Anti-Virus program, keep
> it current, and updated, and do it for free, you have to ask yourself,
> what are they really selling.
>         It's too bad we have to have anti-virus programs to protect our
> computer, to protect from some guy that has nothing better to do then
> vandalize the system, but that's life.
>         My advice...pay for a product that is designed to do what it
> states, so when it does not work, as prescribed, then you have the right
> to ask, "Why Not?".
>         Dollar for Dollar, Norton AV has given me what I expect, MacAfee
> is also good. Anything else, I have no confidence in, and especially if
> it's "Free".
> 
> -Ed-
> 
> Ed Gaidies
> Tel-Tek Electronics
> Ontario-Canada
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bil Green
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:50 AM
> To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST
> Subject: Re[2]: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> 
> I don't know why everyone is so big on Norton. Here is the user
> approval rating (at download.com) for Norton Antivirus 2004:
> 28% (from 234 votes). If it's this bad they should give everyone
> a refund.
> 
> Avast Anitivirus has an 89% approval rating (over 400 votes)
> and it's free. I prefer to use Panda Titanium.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
>  Bil Green
>  2001 TV VCR
>  Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
>  760-934-2001                           mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Friday, January 30, 2004, 9:10:25 PM, you wrote:
> 
> MW> Good Jeff. It should also be mentioned that Norton protection costs
> less
> MW> than $30.00 per year. It does piss me off that we have loose cannons
> out
> MW> there who have no regard for the other person. Heck.
> 
> MW> Mark Wentowski
> MW> Perry Hill Electronics
> MW> 3836 Harrison Rd.
> MW> Montgomery AL 36109
> MW> phone: (334)279-5622
> MW> fax:   (334)273-9050
> MW> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> MW> -----Original Message-----
> MW> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MW> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Intrepid Video
> MW> Support
> MW> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:41 PM
> MW> To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST
> MW> Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> 
> MW> Mark,
> MW> Sounds like you do more than most.
> MW> Like I said, I had gotten several of these in between my Norton
> updates, but
> MW> they were obviously
> MW> suspicious...Usually the message body makes no sense.
> MW> If you're not sure, just don't open it.. Getting a vir*s really puts
> a
> MW> damper on email lists, their users
> MW> and in general the web itself..
> MW> All the while happening in the process of our websites and email
> lists
> MW> changing servers. New people will
> MW> not be subscribed unless they contact me personally. This vir*s has
> been
> MW> trying to subscribe to the list
> MW> and I had to turn that function off until this thing
> subsides...10-20 admin
> MW> rejects per day..
> 
> MW> Jeff Dougherty
> MW> Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> MW> 263 S Front St
> MW> Steelton PA 17113
> MW> fax...717-564-4952
> MW> www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> 
> MW> ----- Original Message -----
> MW> From: "Mark Wentowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MW> To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MW> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:45 PM
> MW> Subject: RE: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> 
> MW> Jeff, I know firsthand how much money can be lost when a business
> gets a
> MW> virus in the system. I use Norton and get automatic daily updates.
> On Friday
> MW> nights Norton does a complete virus scan of all the drives. Am I
> doing
> MW> enough? If a computer does get infected but Norton says they are
> clean how
> MW> can we find out about it?
> 
> MW> Mark Wentowski
> MW> Perry Hill Electronics
> MW> 3836 Harrison Rd.
> MW> Montgomery AL 36109
> MW> phone: (334)279-5622
> MW> fax:   (334)273-9050
> MW> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> MW> -----Original Message-----
> MW> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MW> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Intrepid Video
> MW> Support
> MW> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:21 AM
> MW> To: Tech List
> MW> Subject: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> 
> MW> I have one thing to say, if I find out who on this list got
> infected, you
> MW> will be permanently banned from
> MW> this list!
> MW> There is no friggin excuse to get infected. Vir*ses have been around
> for a
> MW> long time and every
> MW> professional on this list should be able to detect a suspicious
> email.
> MW> Just because your anti-vir*s did not detect the attachment, DOES NOT
> mean it
> MW> is safe.
> MW> This one came out before I had the updates in my Norton, but it grew
> MW> suspicion, so I updated my
> MW> definitions...
> MW> The only way some of you will learn, is if one of these things wipe
> your
> MW> hard drive...
> MW> Use common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> MW> This has created much havoc on this list with 10-20 rejected posts
> regarding
> MW> this infection..there is no
> MW> excuse...everyone on here should be smart enough to protect
> themselves..
> 
> MW> Jeff Dougherty
> MW> Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> MW> 263 S Front St
> MW> Steelton PA 17113
> MW> fax...717-564-4952
> MW> www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> 
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