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Wayne Vanaman
Omega Electronics
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Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Techs] LeRoy's demise...was...: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101
27B800,no video..(was vertical problem)


> this is not directed to any special person, just my thoughts.
> Is this list secure, or can anyone search google and find
> these messages.
> I don t use parts from old tv's unless the customer authorizes
> it. which I seldom do, because new parts are so cheap now, and
> the old parts are questionable quality, such as IC s,
> flybacks, etc.
> Disposing of a customers junk is not too easy, if you want to
> be legal.
> registered letters, etc.
> i have saved a few tvs I felt were just too good to junk, but
> after sitting for a year collecting dust , I end up junking
> them any way.
> i hate to go back to a set i already gave up on.   lol
> We charge for estimates, when we didnt , we got junk that some
> picked off the curb, and would not spend much to repair,
> because the felt it was near worthless.
> i can usually sell a repair easier than a used tv.
> the original owner seems to value their tv more than a
> stranger would.
> Please remember, this may not be a private list,
> and someones customer may be reading this, and assume we all
> the same.
> Just my thoughts,
> Larry
>
>
>
>
>
> Intrepid Video Support wrote:
> > Joe,
> > I hope you have that in writing that the customer signs and you have
checked with your local laws.
> > You can't just automatically make a set yours. There is a lawful
procedure to follow.
> >
> > Jeff Dougherty
> > Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> > 263 S Front St
> > Steelton PA 17113
> > fax...717-564-4952
> > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Joe Tech2004" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 6:53 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Techs] LeRoy's demise...was...: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101
27B800,no video..(was vertical
> > problem)
> >
> >
> > I've never ever had to worry about any units hanging around and waiting
> > for custs approval or to pick up after repaired. Everything is known up
> > front within a week at most. Never have to worry about contacting cust
> > to pick up, it's either picked up within days after repair or given to
> > me the moment they decide they don't want the repair. "joe"
> > =================================
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > My customer's who get the coupons have already "proven" themselves by
> > leaving an estimate fee on another unit. These are the people we want to
> > come back and use our services.
> > As I said. I think it was a great idea! It's the best of both worlds.
> > It's not a completely free estimate but at the same time it has value to
> > the customer and shows them that we appreciate their business.
> > Heck Eugene, If I were a customer I wouldn't bring anything to you if
> > you behave towards your customers as you behave on these lists.
> > Mark Wentowski
> > Perry Hill Electronics
> > 3836 Harrison Rd.
> > Montgomery AL 36109
> > phone: (334)279-5622
> > fax: (334)273-9050
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > =================================
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eugene
Spooner=================================
> > It is kinda like you say "Reasonable Expectations". The set
> > that gets past my door HAS got to have a deposit or it's no deal at all
> > and goes back out PDQ.
> > For me here and don't know what it is in your area ; it is a
> > "Legal" problem that when it is and legally got rid of it requires
> > either one of two things - Certified Mail for one and wait 6 months is
> > the other. So , if I am going to be bound by that - I WANT SOME LOOT for
> > it all. If I get rid of it wrongfully ; I may end up paying $100.00 (
> > Law specifies minimum value is $100.00 regardless ) for it plus Court
> > Costs ( $55.00 ) and I am not about to do $155.00 on a set that won't
> > bring me over $50 profits after all is said and done.
> > Effectively for DV sets ; I charge a $20.00 estimate fee for
> > looking at it. I get $40.00 up front and if they do not come back for
> > the 'refund' of $20.00 ; I use it up to pay for the Certified mail and
> > disposal charges. Have started doing this as to kill Two Birds with one
> > stone. I use the same Certified Mail to give notice of storage charges
> > of $2.00 per day beginning the Day after the mailing of this Certified
> > Mail. This came about because of a Peer of mine had bitterly complained
> > about the Postal Service taking 3 MONTHS to deliver a certified mail on
> > a Wide Screen. If he had that 'storage charges' in the mailing ; would
> > have collected an additional $180.00 plus the repair bill of $330.00 on
> > a set that he can sell for $600-$700 easy enough. Then the Owner can
> > talk to the Postal Service about that.. Owner came by and ...
> > As for the "Free Estimate" ; guess I do that and it is while
> > the Customer is here and I advise him what it might cost and if he wants
> > more specifics or OK's the repair guesstimates ; I GET that deposit
> > before I take one screw out ! This is 'filtering' at the front to get
> > rid of cheapskates or they are 'not serious'. This has been the sorest
> > point with me followed by "Long Time" to pick up. NLA is next.
> > Best: Eugene
> > =================================
> > Mark Wentowski wrote:
> > Hi Leroy and Jeff. I couldn't agree more. But in our market area and
> > because of our overhead we do charge estimate fees but recently we've
> > printed up some "free estimate" coupons. When a customer returns to pick
> > up an unrepaired unit we give them a coupon. It is transferable so they
> > can share it with their family or friends. So far it has worked out well
> > and people aren't as likely to think that they've been ripped off. I
> > thought it was a great idea.
> > Mark Wentowski
> > Perry Hill Electronics
> > 3836 Harrison Rd.
> > Montgomery AL 36109
> > phone: (334)279-5622
> > fax: (334)273-9050
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ================================= =================================
> > LeRoy,
> > More power to you. No one has any business telling you how to run your
> > business and it annoys me when
> > other techs tell you NOT to give free estimates, to charge more, etc...
> > Some of us have to use some creative selling techniques to bring in more
> > business.
> > I some times spend 15 minutes encouraging a customer to leave their set.
> > When you have nothing to
> > repair..you appreciate the ones that will leave their set and agree to a
> > reasonable repair bill.
> > Jeff Dougherty
> > Intrepid Video TV/
> > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 11:54 AM
> > Subject: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was
> > vertical
> > problem)
> > =================================
> > Hi Mark, and fellow techs.
> > I just put FREE ESTIMATES back up on my outside sign,...and I don't want
> > anybody to give me any sh*t about it. I've tried it BOTH ways, and I
> > don't want to drive anymore of my customers to Wal-Mart any sooner then
> > I have to. A FREE estimate is just THAT,...if they want a more precise
> > diagnosis,...then they will still have to pay $1 per inch for the size
> > of the screen. $20 for 19", $25 for 25-27", and $35 for 32-40". $50-100
> > for PTVs.
> > I will also require the remote control to be brought in, to qualify for
> > the FREE estimate.
> > Cause I plan to repair, and sell them as used sets, and nobody wants to
> > buy a used TV with out a remote control. I plan to sell them for 1/2 the
> > price that Wal-Mart charges for a new one. After all, the junk they sell
> > is not any better then a good used TV, that has been reconditioned
> > properly. Of course,...that has to be part of my sales pitch. I will
> > have to convence them of that.
> > In cases where the set is obviously a junker, I won't even accept it to
> > start with. I will give them an unreasonably high estimate, to
> > discourage them from even leaving it at my facility. My plan is to get
> > some of the BEST, repairable sets, before they junk them to buy new. I
> > am certain that there are TOO many 25-35 inch sets, that are being
> > junked, that could be fixed and sold at a profet. I am doing this
> > because I am desperate. If I had many customers like the good ole
> > days,...I would be more picky, but, things are getting scary around
> > here. Dead, dead,...and more dead each day that passes. Hope things are
> > better for you guys in your resective areas. You might say,...that I am
> > making a final stab at it. Beat Wally World at their own game, and
> > undercut them by 50%. HO, ho,.HA, ha, HE, he,.....
> > ;-)
> > LLW
> > LeRoy Westlund
> >
> >
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