Yes , I do use used parts and I plumb just don't mention
it and don't charge for it either. This was to save a job
that had something else wrong and this additional problem
shows up having been masked by the first problem. Did not
want to waste time getting an approval for a new estimate
that might kill the job outright.
Best: Eugene

Doug Keller wrote:
> 
> Perry is right.
> 
> Doug Keller
> Wis-Kel Electronics
> 101 Freeland Ave.
> Terra Alta, WV
> USA        26764
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.tech-assist.org
> "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> 
> Electric Medic wrote:
> 
> >I knew this topic would lead to the old "used parts" scare. All I can say is
> >have you ever bought a tuner from a tuner rebuilder? I got news, you might
> >as well take one off a junker chassis because that is what you get, used.
> >Well, they may change one IC or something, but every other part is old. You
> >might also get the intermittent the dud provider didn't mention. At least, I
> >mark my junker chassis as to what is good or bad as best that I can tell.
> >Same thing with board rebuilders, do we really think the rebuilders replace
> >every part "New" on those chassis. They may put one or two new parts, the
> >rest are probably older than the junk chassis you have laying around. And
> >guess what, if the shop made a mistake or the rebuilder thinks the shop made
> >a mistake a sent them a good board as dud, they will ship it to you as
> >"rebuilt" with all the previous intermittent the other customer had. So we
> >all use "used" parts whether we know it or not.
> >
> >Perry Bower
> >Electric Medic
> >"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> >http://www.electricmedic.com
> >3850 Washington Road  Suite 4C
> >Martinez, Georgia 30907
> >Phone: 706-8MEDIC4  (863-3424)
> >Phone: 706-863-3474
> >Fax: 706-863-2316
> >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of larry
> >Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 10:48 AM
> >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST
> >Subject: Re: [Techs] LeRoy's demise...was...: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101
> >27B800,no video..(was vertical problem)
> >
> >
> >this is not directed to any special person, just my thoughts.
> >Is this list secure, or can anyone search google and find
> >these messages.
> >I don t use parts from old tv's unless the customer authorizes
> >it. which I seldom do, because new parts are so cheap now, and
> >the old parts are questionable quality, such as IC s,
> >flybacks, etc.
> >Disposing of a customers junk is not too easy, if you want to
> >be legal.
> >registered letters, etc.
> >i have saved a few tvs I felt were just too good to junk, but
> >after sitting for a year collecting dust , I end up junking
> >them any way.
> >i hate to go back to a set i already gave up on.   lol
> >We charge for estimates, when we didnt , we got junk that some
> >picked off the curb, and would not spend much to repair,
> >because the felt it was near worthless.
> >i can usually sell a repair easier than a used tv.
> >the original owner seems to value their tv more than a
> >stranger would.
> >Please remember, this may not be a private list,
> >and someones customer may be reading this, and assume we all
> >the same.
> >Just my thoughts,
> >Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Intrepid Video Support wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Joe,
> >>I hope you have that in writing that the customer signs and you have
> >>
> >>
> >checked with your local laws.
> >
> >
> >>You can't just automatically make a set yours. There is a lawful procedure
> >>
> >>
> >to follow.
> >
> >
> >>Jeff Dougherty
> >>Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> >>263 S Front St
> >>Steelton PA 17113
> >>fax...717-564-4952
> >>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Joe Tech2004" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 6:53 PM
> >>Subject: RE: [Techs] LeRoy's demise...was...: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101
> >>
> >>
> >27B800,no video..(was vertical
> >
> >
> >>problem)
> >>
> >>
> >>I've never ever had to worry about any units hanging around and waiting
> >>for custs approval or to pick up after repaired. Everything is known up
> >>front within a week at most. Never have to worry about contacting cust
> >>to pick up, it's either picked up within days after repair or given to
> >>me the moment they decide they don't want the repair. "joe"
> >>=================================
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>My customer's who get the coupons have already "proven" themselves by
> >>leaving an estimate fee on another unit. These are the people we want to
> >>come back and use our services.
> >>As I said. I think it was a great idea! It's the best of both worlds.
> >>It's not a completely free estimate but at the same time it has value to
> >>the customer and shows them that we appreciate their business.
> >>Heck Eugene, If I were a customer I wouldn't bring anything to you if
> >>you behave towards your customers as you behave on these lists.
> >>Mark Wentowski
> >>Perry Hill Electronics
> >>3836 Harrison Rd.
> >>Montgomery AL 36109
> >>phone: (334)279-5622
> >>fax: (334)273-9050
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>=================================
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eugene
> >>
> >>
> >Spooner=================================
> >
> >
> >>It is kinda like you say "Reasonable Expectations". The set
> >>that gets past my door HAS got to have a deposit or it's no deal at all
> >>and goes back out PDQ.
> >>For me here and don't know what it is in your area ; it is a
> >>"Legal" problem that when it is and legally got rid of it requires
> >>either one of two things - Certified Mail for one and wait 6 months is
> >>the other. So , if I am going to be bound by that - I WANT SOME LOOT for
> >>it all. If I get rid of it wrongfully ; I may end up paying $100.00 (
> >>Law specifies minimum value is $100.00 regardless ) for it plus Court
> >>Costs ( $55.00 ) and I am not about to do $155.00 on a set that won't
> >>bring me over $50 profits after all is said and done.
> >>Effectively for DV sets ; I charge a $20.00 estimate fee for
> >>looking at it. I get $40.00 up front and if they do not come back for
> >>the 'refund' of $20.00 ; I use it up to pay for the Certified mail and
> >>disposal charges. Have started doing this as to kill Two Birds with one
> >>stone. I use the same Certified Mail to give notice of storage charges
> >>of $2.00 per day beginning the Day after the mailing of this Certified
> >>Mail. This came about because of a Peer of mine had bitterly complained
> >>about the Postal Service taking 3 MONTHS to deliver a certified mail on
> >>a Wide Screen. If he had that 'storage charges' in the mailing ; would
> >>have collected an additional $180.00 plus the repair bill of $330.00 on
> >>a set that he can sell for $600-$700 easy enough. Then the Owner can
> >>talk to the Postal Service about that.. Owner came by and ...
> >>As for the "Free Estimate" ; guess I do that and it is while
> >>the Customer is here and I advise him what it might cost and if he wants
> >>more specifics or OK's the repair guesstimates ; I GET that deposit
> >>before I take one screw out ! This is 'filtering' at the front to get
> >>rid of cheapskates or they are 'not serious'. This has been the sorest
> >>point with me followed by "Long Time" to pick up. NLA is next.
> >>Best: Eugene
> >>=================================
> >>Mark Wentowski wrote:
> >>Hi Leroy and Jeff. I couldn't agree more. But in our market area and
> >>because of our overhead we do charge estimate fees but recently we've
> >>printed up some "free estimate" coupons. When a customer returns to pick
> >>up an unrepaired unit we give them a coupon. It is transferable so they
> >>can share it with their family or friends. So far it has worked out well
> >>and people aren't as likely to think that they've been ripped off. I
> >>thought it was a great idea.
> >>Mark Wentowski
> >>Perry Hill Electronics
> >>3836 Harrison Rd.
> >>Montgomery AL 36109
> >>phone: (334)279-5622
> >>fax: (334)273-9050
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>================================= =================================
> >>LeRoy,
> >>More power to you. No one has any business telling you how to run your
> >>business and it annoys me when
> >>other techs tell you NOT to give free estimates, to charge more, etc...
> >>Some of us have to use some creative selling techniques to bring in more
> >>business.
> >>I some times spend 15 minutes encouraging a customer to leave their set.
> >>When you have nothing to
> >>repair..you appreciate the ones that will leave their set and agree to a
> >>reasonable repair bill.
> >>Jeff Dougherty
> >>Intrepid Video TV/
> >>Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 11:54 AM
> >>Subject: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was
> >>vertical
> >>problem)
> >>=================================
> >>Hi Mark, and fellow techs.
> >>I just put FREE ESTIMATES back up on my outside sign,...and I don't want
> >>anybody to give me any sh*t about it. I've tried it BOTH ways, and I
> >>don't want to drive anymore of my customers to Wal-Mart any sooner then
> >>I have to. A FREE estimate is just THAT,...if they want a more precise
> >>diagnosis,...then they will still have to pay $1 per inch for the size
> >>of the screen. $20 for 19", $25 for 25-27", and $35 for 32-40". $50-100
> >>for PTVs.
> >>I will also require the remote control to be brought in, to qualify for
> >>the FREE estimate.
> >>Cause I plan to repair, and sell them as used sets, and nobody wants to
> >>buy a used TV with out a remote control. I plan to sell them for 1/2 the
> >>price that Wal-Mart charges for a new one. After all, the junk they sell
> >>is not any better then a good used TV, that has been reconditioned
> >>properly. Of course,...that has to be part of my sales pitch. I will
> >>have to convence them of that.
> >>In cases where the set is obviously a junker, I won't even accept it to
> >>start with. I will give them an unreasonably high estimate, to
> >>discourage them from even leaving it at my facility. My plan is to get
> >>some of the BEST, repairable sets, before they junk them to buy new. I
> >>am certain that there are TOO many 25-35 inch sets, that are being
> >>junked, that could be fixed and sold at a profet. I am doing this
> >>because I am desperate. If I had many customers like the good ole
> >>days,...I would be more picky, but, things are getting scary around
> >>here. Dead, dead,...and more dead each day that passes. Hope things are
> >>better for you guys in your resective areas. You might say,...that I am
> >>making a final stab at it. Beat Wally World at their own game, and
> >>undercut them by 50%. HO, ho,.HA, ha, HE, he,.....
> >>;-)
> >>LLW
> >>LeRoy Westlund
> >>
> >>
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