I have never trusted tilt markings because I suspect there's only so much manufacturing tolerance they can/will put put into little stamped markings. Then sometimes there's a 1/10th inch or so of play in the assembly of the hardware. A tenth inch might be half a degree, and that's a lot.

I'm currently having a battle of wills with a tower climber about this very topic. He has a digital level in his truck, but wants to trust the tilt markings because it's easier and less to carry.



------ Original Message ------
From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 9/25/2016 1:28:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Telrad] ALPHA Tilt - huge problem.

Manufacturer tilt marks do not correspond with plumb... I verified not a problem with 3.65 alpha antennas... 2.3 and 2.5 big problem with the 65 deg t0



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-------- Original message --------
From: Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
Date: 2016-09-25 12:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: telrad <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Telrad] ALPHA Tilt - huge problem.

So why exactly is it 2* off?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sep 25, 2016 12:20 PM, "Andreas Wiatowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
I guess I'll treat this as a lesson learned...my point is, our mounts are level... Why should I not trust what a manufacturer has made... After all they know the importance of accuracy in the Rf world.



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Silo Wireless Inc.

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-------- Original message --------
From: Skywerx Support <[email protected]>
Date: 2016-09-25 11:48 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Telrad] ALPHA Tilt -  huge problem.

I hope you never go by the degree markings on an antenna!

--
Justin Davis
COO
SkyWerx Industries, LLC

On Sep 25, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> wrote:

Why would you not use the inclinometer to verify the antenna tilt?

On Sep 25, 2016, at 11:37, Andreas Wiatowski <[email protected]> wrote:

Well, I hope Alpha will be compensating us for every site we need to revisit. I AM absolutely Furious!!

Every single one of our sites we use a level or inclometer on a mount for 0 deg or compensate... Set the antenna for 3-4 degrees... according to our RNP and call it a day.

We have discovered that ALL our ALPHA degree markings are 2 degrees off!

This means my entire network... Which has felt like self interference... Is self interference. All the antennas are 1 to 2 degrees tilt!!!

Please see attached photos...

We used a sunsight azimuth and tilt meter to confirm. We used the sunsight on a new site build and discovered the anomaly.

Telrad needs to issue a bulletin and check the T0 3.65 too.

Off we go to rescue our network....


Cheers,

______________________________

Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

Email  [email protected]

19 Sage Court

Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free +1.866.727.4138

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