One thing to keep in mind about antenna gain. More is not always
better. It is great for LOS and long range but a mid gain antenna.
From our experience, when using more advanced technologies like LTE /
WiMax / Orthogon (MOTO PTP) in non LOS situations more gain is not
always a one for one exchange. You will actually see better performance
from a high quality lower gain antenna in many cases. Say around 15dbi
is a good sweet spot for a wide enough beam to collect reflections and
defracted signal while maintaining enough power to make a link at
reasonable range.
Now in a wifi based product, more gain is almost always a better solution.
Anthony Will
Broadband Corp
Office 952-215-3812
On 1/26/2017 3:42 PM, Bryce Duchcherer wrote:
I was under the assumption that the 8000 had a higher gain antenna,
but I was wrong. According to specs both the 7000 and 8000 have a 15db
antenna.
Telrad has said since the announcement of the 8000 that it is their
high power CPE. I guess that they were referring to TX power, not gain.
Bryce D
NETAGO
*From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:34 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
Joking perhaps? It doesn't have more antenna gain. Or do you mean a
different kind of gain?
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From: "Bryce Duchcherer" <[email protected]_ <mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]_
<mailto:[email protected]>>; "[email protected]
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Sent: 1/26/2017 3:00:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
The 8000 is their higher gain CPE (other than the connectorized 7000)
Bryce D
NETAGO
*From:*[email protected]_
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]_
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:38
*To:* [email protected]_ <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
19dbi eh? Does anyone happen to know if a higher gain CPE is on
Telrad's roadmap? I thought it was at one point.
------ Original Message ------
From: "J Portman" <[email protected]_ <mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected]_ <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 1/26/2017 2:21:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
Baicells CPE does work with telrad with a telrad sim card. We
have only tested one but it works pretty well.
JP
*On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:35:51 -0600, Anthony Will wrote*
> So an update,
> I contacted a Baicells rep and they do support SNMP. Their
price point is in the same range as the 8000 UE. I have a
19dbi antenna test unit coming to see if I can get it to link up.
>
> The BEC group at first blush appears to be cost
prohibitive. They suggested the UE would run around the $400
mark in relatively small quantities. The 7000 is a cheaper
solution at that point for SNMP support. Though there could
be other advantages to have them put something together.
>
> If anyone happens to run into another possible solution let
me know. I will be happy to dig into it see if it is going to
be a solution.
Anthony
Will
Broadband
Corp
> On 1/20/2017 5:06 PM, Anthony Will wrote:
>
> I would assume at some point the 7000 is going to go
away. I haven't heard of a time line. I suspect the
product has a bit of life in it because of the continued
existence of the WiMax install base.
>
> So the 7000 is an option and one I'm looking at though I
also suspect that further development is going to be on
the 8000 and not so much on the 7000 as it was designed
out of the gate as a transitional product.
>
> I am contacting a distro for the Baicells guys, they are
going to get back to me and I called the BEC group (thanks
Henry C.)
>
> From my conversation with the BEC guys. They are
oriented towards a custom design / support solution. He
even mentioned making custom firmware changes 10 times in
3 months to accommodate a customer. They are going to get
back to me on cost and availability. I will let you all
know what I find out.
>
Anthony
Will
Broadband
Corp
> On 1/20/2017 3:38 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote:
>
>
> I'm not sure what band you are deployed in, but
there don't seem to be that many band 43 (3.6) CPE
options at this point...
>
> They aren't discontinuing the 7000 are they?
Couldn't you just continue to buy those?
>
> I haven't played with a Baicells CPE, but could that
be an option?
>
> The only other third-party vendor I have run into
with FCC approval is Greenpacket. But they apparently
have no U.S. distributor. So you have to buy directly
from Greenpacket in wholesale quantities. They don't
have high-gain options and I don't know that they have
any connectorized models either. And it may be moot
anyway because never having played with one, I do not
know their stance on SNMP.
>
> -- Nathan
>
>
> *From:* [email protected]_
<mailto:[email protected]>
[_mailto:[email protected]_] *On Behalf Of
*Anthony Will
> *Sent:* Friday, January 20, 2017 11:23 AM
> *To:* [email protected]_ <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 - SNMP
>
> My eye's are wide open to the fact that we will
likely have to maintain the breezeview "tax". But
breezeview is not integrated with our billing and
network management system or processes and likely
never will be. It's this weird and clunky little
thing that I only touch when adding new SIM's to the
network.
> Again, SNMP is a requirement for operations in our
network. So we are going to move forward with a
solution that is compatible with our network. If that
is Telrad or another solution. Telrad had this
functionality, and was one of many reasons we
implemented their solution. Honestly it is hard for
me to call any device that does not have basic
functionality like SNMP a "carrier grade" solution.
> So has anyone ran into a CPE device that does
support SNMP?
Anthony
Will
Broadband
Corp
>
> On 1/20/2017 12:07 PM, David Peterson wrote:
Keep in mind that Breezeview will be a necessary
component for
CBRS
compliance.
David
-----Original
Message-----
From: [email protected]_
<mailto:[email protected]>
[_mailto:[email protected]_] On
Behalf Of Anthony
Will
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:08
PM
To: [email protected]_ <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 -
SNMP
We don't use breezeview for anything as it is
noting but a
glorified Ihss import utility at this point. SNMP
is a requirement for us. We
are looking for alternative CPE options that
support SNMP. Has anyone found one
other then the 7000
series?
Anthony
Will
Broadband
Corp
Office
952-215-3812
On 1/19/2017 11:52 AM, Terry Duchcherer
wrote:
That is the same thing we have been told,
maybe if enough of
us request SNMP they will reconsider
this.
We have spent months trying to get StarACS to
get decent
KPI's from the CPE7000's. Now we are being
told that the ACS function is moving
to BreezeView, but KPI's are several months
away.
So, now we are changing the CPE7000 to both
TR069 and SNMP.
Using the ACS to do bulk software upgrades,
parameter changes, etc. And using
SNMP to get the KPI's we want. This has been
much more reliable and we are
finally getting the info we
need.
Therefore, TELRAD please add SNMP to the
CPE8000, and give us
the option of TR069 and/or SNMP just like the
CPE7000.
Terry D.
Duchcherer
NETAGO
-----Original
Message-----
From: [email protected]_
<mailto:[email protected]>
[_mailto:[email protected]_] On
Behalf Of David
Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:09
AM
To: [email protected]_ <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Telrad] CPE 8000 -
SNMP
There is no roadmap to add SNMP support to the
8000 that I
have heard,
just
TR-069
David
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Message-----
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[_mailto:[email protected]_] On
Behalf Of Anthony
Will
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:08
PM
To: [email protected]_ <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Telrad] CPE 8000 -
SNMP
Anyone heard of or requested SNMP support for the
8000?
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