Oh, gotcha.

Ken, do you mind advising a bit on these caves a bit?  I'm in the
planning phase for a trip in June and have never been to any of these
caves.  SBF is one I want to see, are any of the others in the same
area or easy driving distance for a same day trip?  I looked around
online looking for a general description of these caves, similar to
what NPS and BLM have posted about their recreational caves, but found
nothing other than a few pictures.

Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Charles

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Ken Harrington
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Charles,
>
> They were only opened up again last Friday.
>
> Ken
>
>> From: [email protected]
>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:35:12 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [NMCAVER] Guads cave list
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>> Thanks for all of the work you have done for us Ken. I'm glad to see
>> these caves back open to us. I recently had asked for permits for a
>> couple of these (within the last month) and was denied.
>>
>> Charles - cavetex list administrator
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Ken Harrington
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Some day i will remember that that the nmcaver routing does not allow
>> > attachments.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > So....
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The following is a recreation of a document that I got from the Forest
>> > Service this morning.  Please be aware that this is a draft document.
>> >
>> > Up dated 03/04/2010
>> >
>> > The Lincoln National Forest is opening a limited number of caves for
>> > recreational caving.  The limited number of caves is due to the limited
>> > amount of time that qualified personnel are able to conduct the monitoring
>> > requirements.  The monitoring will be done with assistance from cave
>> > specialist with other federal government agencies (BLM, NPS) in the area.
>> >  The normal regulations will apply with the following provisions:
>> >
>> > 1.  The permit request will be required two weeks in advance of the date
>> > of the permit.
>> >
>> > 2.  Permitted groups may be accompanied by a Forest Service
>> > representative for monitoring purposes.
>> >
>> > 3.  The Forest Service representative has the authority to end any trip
>> > anytime due to any one of the following reasons:
>> >
>> >            a. Lack of proper equipment
>> >
>> >            b. Improper actions during the trip
>> >
>> >            c. Violations pertaining to resource concerns
>> >
>> > The following caves are the ones open for recreational caving:
>> >
>> >            1. Black Cave
>> >            2. Cottonwood Cave
>> >            3. Hidden Cave
>> >            4. Red lake Cave
>> >            5. Sentinel Cave
>> >            6. Sitting Bull Falls Cave
>> >            7. Ain’t Dean’s Cave*
>> >            8. Hell Below Cave*
>> >            9. Pink Panther Cave*
>> >
>> > The High Guads Restoration Projects will continue as planned by HGRP
>> > coordinator.
>> >
>> > * Requires Trip Leader
>> >
>> >
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