I'm not condoning of getting rid of the membership fees, and while I
think a few may quit paying if they can get the TC for free, I think
that it will bring in more members in the long run.

The information should be free.

Charles

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> wrote:
> I didnt know you felt this way and thought as a TSA member, you would
> support having a small income for the organization. I will offer to
> give Gill my prize of a 2010 membership but in no way think that there
> should be no membership fees. I am glad he has someone to market for
> him though(you)-i wont
>
> On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Gil, I seem to remember you making that statement within the last year
>> or so, about the $100 donation.  I also seem to remark about matching
>> that, and I'll stand by it.  I'll donate $100 as well.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Gill Edigar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John P.
>>> Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I want to save the TSA from financial ruin....I will go digital if Ediger
>>>> renews his membership. Anyone else willing to make that commitment?
>>>
>>> Ediger will renew his lapsed TSA membership and donate $100 to the TSA
>>> within seconds of The TEXAS CAVER being made a free publication to any
>>> caver
>>> who wants to sign up for a free subscription. Subscribing non-TSA members
>>> should be solicited to join TSA but membership should not be a requirement
>>> for receiving all the good caving information aimed at bettering the cause
>>> of caving in Texas. As a caver and TSA member I, personally, would want
>>> every caver in Texas to be reading TSA promotional material, safety
>>> information, articles about equipment and techniques, cave science,
>>> upcoming
>>> events which they can support by attending, trip and cave reports, and
>>> participating personally by attending TSA conventions and contributing
>>> articles to The TEXAS CAVER themselves, all of which will also benefit ME.
>>> I
>>> am selfish. I want all of these non-TSA members to read The TEXAS CAVER
>>> because I will benefit from them being more informed and better cavers.
>>> They
>>> do not have to be TSA members to be better cavers. But they can be better
>>> cavers, and well qualified and participating members of the Texas caving
>>> community, if they simply read and contribute to The TEXAS CAVER. And
>>> their
>>> participation is good for me, it is good for you, and it is good for Texas
>>> caving. That is probably the most valuable service the TSA can provide to
>>> cavers and caving in Texas--keeping EVERYONE informed so they can be a
>>> better participant in Texas caving.
>>> I coined a phrase in 1969, "As The TEXAS CAVER goes, so goes the TSA." I
>>> think that is still true today. If The TEXAS CAVER is made available to
>>> all
>>> Texas cavers digitally and free then we will see a much better informed
>>> group of Texas cavers taking the bait to become members of the TSA and
>>> helping it reach it's selfish aims and purposes--a major part of which is
>>> promoting Texas caving--for ALL of us, not just the few. The time has
>>> finally come, my fellow Texas cavers, to do something for our selfish
>>> selves. It costs the TSA nothing to give The TEXAS CAVER away digitally.
>>> It
>>> costs the TSA and Texas caving a lot not to. If you want to do something
>>> selfish for yourself and for all the other Texas cavers vote at your
>>> earliest opportunity to separate The CAVER from TSA membership, to make it
>>> free to any digital subscriber.  Otherwise, we're just preaching to the
>>> choir.
>>> Yours in Texas caving (for nearly 43 years now),
>>> --Ediger
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John P. Brooks <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I want to save the TSA from financial ruin....I will go digital if Ediger
>>>> renews his membership. Anyone else willing to make that commitment?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/14/09 1:14 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Welcome back, Karen!
>>>>
>>>> Now, if we could only get Ediger to rejoin!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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