Sure, do you think we should bring up the 2 tier membership to go hand in hand with this?
I dont' know what the costs should be, but people who want a hard cover should have to pay for that privilege :) On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:57 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, many geek friends w/ technological skills. > Will you be the Free Texas Caver committee chair? We can table the > Texas Caver conversation now and you can bring it up for debate at the > Jan meeting. At the Jan meeting, you will obtain the floor and make a > motion to the TSA chair. He will then accept/reject and then the > registered members present will vote and the majority wins. Sounds fun > and simple, right? You in? > > On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote: >> I'm somewhat familiar with RRO, read through it years ago. >> >> Isn't that why you have geek friends? >> >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:13 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I majored in Business. I will forward you a script for the January >>> business meeting- Roberts Rule of Order, its simple. Im embarrassed >>> that I thought black meant red. I suck w/ computers. >>> >>> On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Just thoughts rambling through my head, never sat down and wrote down the >>>> ideas. >>>> >>>> No, went to A&M for a few years for comp sci and switched to an >>>> aeronautical school to get my pilot's license. Am back in computers >>>> tho, LOL >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:10 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Free thinker! Did you go to a liberal arts school? I will lay out a >>>>> simple, organized way to bring this issue up at the next meeting. I >>>>> have thought it through but will not propose it myself. You probably >>>>> have material prepared as well >>>>> >>>>> On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I'm not condoning of getting rid of the membership fees, and while I >>>>>> think a few may quit paying if they can get the TC for free, I think >>>>>> that it will bring in more members in the long run. >>>>>> >>>>>> The information should be free. >>>>>> >>>>>> Charles >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I didnt know you felt this way and thought as a TSA member, you would >>>>>>> support having a small income for the organization. I will offer to >>>>>>> give Gill my prize of a 2010 membership but in no way think that there >>>>>>> should be no membership fees. I am glad he has someone to market for >>>>>>> him though(you)-i wont >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Gil, I seem to remember you making that statement within the last >>>>>>>> year >>>>>>>> or so, about the $100 donation. I also seem to remark about matching >>>>>>>> that, and I'll stand by it. I'll donate $100 as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Charles >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Gill Edigar <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John P. >>>>>>>>> Brooks <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I want to save the TSA from financial ruin....I will go digital if >>>>>>>>>> Ediger >>>>>>>>>> renews his membership. Anyone else willing to make that commitment? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ediger will renew his lapsed TSA membership and donate $100 to the >>>>>>>>> TSA >>>>>>>>> within seconds of The TEXAS CAVER being made a free publication to >>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>> caver >>>>>>>>> who wants to sign up for a free subscription. Subscribing non-TSA >>>>>>>>> members >>>>>>>>> should be solicited to join TSA but membership should not be a >>>>>>>>> requirement >>>>>>>>> for receiving all the good caving information aimed at bettering the >>>>>>>>> cause >>>>>>>>> of caving in Texas. As a caver and TSA member I, personally, would >>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>> every caver in Texas to be reading TSA promotional material, safety >>>>>>>>> information, articles about equipment and techniques, cave science, >>>>>>>>> upcoming >>>>>>>>> events which they can support by attending, trip and cave reports, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> participating personally by attending TSA conventions and >>>>>>>>> contributing >>>>>>>>> articles to The TEXAS CAVER themselves, all of which will also >>>>>>>>> benefit >>>>>>>>> ME. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> am selfish. I want all of these non-TSA members to read The TEXAS >>>>>>>>> CAVER >>>>>>>>> because I will benefit from them being more informed and better >>>>>>>>> cavers. >>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>> do not have to be TSA members to be better cavers. But they can be >>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>> cavers, and well qualified and participating members of the Texas >>>>>>>>> caving >>>>>>>>> community, if they simply read and contribute to The TEXAS CAVER. >>>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>> participation is good for me, it is good for you, and it is good for >>>>>>>>> Texas >>>>>>>>> caving. That is probably the most valuable service the TSA can >>>>>>>>> provide >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> cavers and caving in Texas--keeping EVERYONE informed so they can be >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> better participant in Texas caving. >>>>>>>>> I coined a phrase in 1969, "As The TEXAS CAVER goes, so goes the >>>>>>>>> TSA." >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> think that is still true today. If The TEXAS CAVER is made available >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> Texas cavers digitally and free then we will see a much better >>>>>>>>> informed >>>>>>>>> group of Texas cavers taking the bait to become members of the TSA >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> helping it reach it's selfish aims and purposes--a major part of >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> promoting Texas caving--for ALL of us, not just the few. The time >>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>> finally come, my fellow Texas cavers, to do something for our >>>>>>>>> selfish >>>>>>>>> selves. It costs the TSA nothing to give The TEXAS CAVER away >>>>>>>>> digitally. >>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>> costs the TSA and Texas caving a lot not to. If you want to do >>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>> selfish for yourself and for all the other Texas cavers vote at your >>>>>>>>> earliest opportunity to separate The CAVER from TSA membership, to >>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> free to any digital subscriber. Otherwise, we're just preaching to >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> choir. >>>>>>>>> Yours in Texas caving (for nearly 43 years now), >>>>>>>>> --Ediger >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John P. Brooks >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I want to save the TSA from financial ruin....I will go digital if >>>>>>>>>> Ediger >>>>>>>>>> renews his membership. Anyone else willing to make that commitment? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/14/09 1:14 PM, "[email protected]" >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Welcome back, Karen! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now, if we could only get Ediger to rejoin! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Visit our website: http://texascavers.com >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
