Yes of course, and the member fee increase. If it all sticks to your motion, and doesnt stray, we can cover a lot of business in a very short time with the members present. We will need handouts detailing everything but that is simple and I will volunteer to do it. We have time and I would rather focus on caves and caving now.
On 12/15/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote: > Sure, do you think we should bring up the 2 tier membership to go hand > in hand with this? > > I dont' know what the costs should be, but people who want a hard > cover should have to pay for that privilege :) > > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:57 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> wrote: >> Yes, many geek friends w/ technological skills. >> Will you be the Free Texas Caver committee chair? We can table the >> Texas Caver conversation now and you can bring it up for debate at the >> Jan meeting. At the Jan meeting, you will obtain the floor and make a >> motion to the TSA chair. He will then accept/reject and then the >> registered members present will vote and the majority wins. Sounds fun >> and simple, right? You in? >> >> On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I'm somewhat familiar with RRO, read through it years ago. >>> >>> Isn't that why you have geek friends? >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:13 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> I majored in Business. I will forward you a script for the January >>>> business meeting- Roberts Rule of Order, its simple. Im embarrassed >>>> that I thought black meant red. I suck w/ computers. >>>> >>>> On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Just thoughts rambling through my head, never sat down and wrote down >>>>> the >>>>> ideas. >>>>> >>>>> No, went to A&M for a few years for comp sci and switched to an >>>>> aeronautical school to get my pilot's license. Am back in computers >>>>> tho, LOL >>>>> >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:10 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Free thinker! Did you go to a liberal arts school? I will lay out a >>>>>> simple, organized way to bring this issue up at the next meeting. I >>>>>> have thought it through but will not propose it myself. You probably >>>>>> have material prepared as well >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> I'm not condoning of getting rid of the membership fees, and while I >>>>>>> think a few may quit paying if they can get the TC for free, I think >>>>>>> that it will bring in more members in the long run. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The information should be free. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Charles >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM, ellie :) <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I didnt know you felt this way and thought as a TSA member, you >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> support having a small income for the organization. I will offer to >>>>>>>> give Gill my prize of a 2010 membership but in no way think that >>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>> should be no membership fees. I am glad he has someone to market for >>>>>>>> him though(you)-i wont >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Gil, I seem to remember you making that statement within the last >>>>>>>>> year >>>>>>>>> or so, about the $100 donation. I also seem to remark about >>>>>>>>> matching >>>>>>>>> that, and I'll stand by it. I'll donate $100 as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Charles >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Gill Edigar <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John P. >>>>>>>>>> Brooks <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I want to save the TSA from financial ruin....I will go digital >>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>> Ediger >>>>>>>>>>> renews his membership. Anyone else willing to make that >>>>>>>>>>> commitment? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ediger will renew his lapsed TSA membership and donate $100 to the >>>>>>>>>> TSA >>>>>>>>>> within seconds of The TEXAS CAVER being made a free publication to >>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>> caver >>>>>>>>>> who wants to sign up for a free subscription. Subscribing non-TSA >>>>>>>>>> members >>>>>>>>>> should be solicited to join TSA but membership should not be a >>>>>>>>>> requirement >>>>>>>>>> for receiving all the good caving information aimed at bettering >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> cause >>>>>>>>>> of caving in Texas. As a caver and TSA member I, personally, would >>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>> every caver in Texas to be reading TSA promotional material, >>>>>>>>>> safety >>>>>>>>>> information, articles about equipment and techniques, cave >>>>>>>>>> science, >>>>>>>>>> upcoming >>>>>>>>>> events which they can support by attending, trip and cave reports, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> participating personally by attending TSA conventions and >>>>>>>>>> contributing >>>>>>>>>> articles to The TEXAS CAVER themselves, all of which will also >>>>>>>>>> benefit >>>>>>>>>> ME. >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> am selfish. I want all of these non-TSA members to read The TEXAS >>>>>>>>>> CAVER >>>>>>>>>> because I will benefit from them being more informed and better >>>>>>>>>> cavers. >>>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>>> do not have to be TSA members to be better cavers. But they can be >>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>> cavers, and well qualified and participating members of the Texas >>>>>>>>>> caving >>>>>>>>>> community, if they simply read and contribute to The TEXAS CAVER. >>>>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>> participation is good for me, it is good for you, and it is good >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> Texas >>>>>>>>>> caving. That is probably the most valuable service the TSA can >>>>>>>>>> provide >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> cavers and caving in Texas--keeping EVERYONE informed so they can >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> better participant in Texas caving. >>>>>>>>>> I coined a phrase in 1969, "As The TEXAS CAVER goes, so goes the >>>>>>>>>> TSA." >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> think that is still true today. If The TEXAS CAVER is made >>>>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>> Texas cavers digitally and free then we will see a much better >>>>>>>>>> informed >>>>>>>>>> group of Texas cavers taking the bait to become members of the TSA >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> helping it reach it's selfish aims and purposes--a major part of >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> promoting Texas caving--for ALL of us, not just the few. The time >>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>> finally come, my fellow Texas cavers, to do something for our >>>>>>>>>> selfish >>>>>>>>>> selves. It costs the TSA nothing to give The TEXAS CAVER away >>>>>>>>>> digitally. >>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>> costs the TSA and Texas caving a lot not to. If you want to do >>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>> selfish for yourself and for all the other Texas cavers vote at >>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>> earliest opportunity to separate The CAVER from TSA membership, to >>>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> free to any digital subscriber. Otherwise, we're just preaching >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> choir. >>>>>>>>>> Yours in Texas caving (for nearly 43 years now), >>>>>>>>>> --Ediger >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John P. Brooks >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I want to save the TSA from financial ruin....I will go digital >>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>> Ediger >>>>>>>>>>> renews his membership. Anyone else willing to make that >>>>>>>>>>> commitment? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/14/09 1:14 PM, "[email protected]" >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Welcome back, Karen! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, if we could only get Ediger to rejoin! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Visit our website: http://texascavers.com >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
