Paradise Canyon for me has some ill feelings since one of my best life long friends died in an accident there. Not the canyon's fault, too much beer most likely and not paying attention. But that memory is still ingrained. I don't really mind the place but I do like Brackettville it is only 40 miles away.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers < [email protected]> wrote: > Herr Charles and others, Achtung! > Paradise Canyon is a great venue, especially for an old fart and his > precious June who both appreciate the convenience of a private cabin. > However I do miss the after dark camaraderie of sitting around your and > others camp fires before hitting the cot. My favorite venue of a few years > ago was Fort Clark and Springs at Brackettville. A little far for a few in > East Texas but better for West Texas and New Mexico. Great facilities, > fabulous water and several of our favorite wild? caves in the general area. > Gets my vote. > Are we locked in to Paradise Canyon? We put too much emphasis on meal > preparation for the whole group. I'm with Charles, I would be happy with > everyone bringing and preparing their own meals. The event fee should > remain the same if no meals are served and the fee used to defer other > expenses. An exception would be the grottos offering breakfast for a > contribution, always welcome. Bored yet? > Herr Fritz (Holt) > [email protected] > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Why are we stuck at Paradise Canyon? The OTR used to be fun when it moved > around. Now it is in a rut. Paradise Canyon is OK but to me it is > incredibly boring after the tenth time. I recall the first one where I and > a few other cooked at Luckenbach. Then a lot of places all over Central > Texas. Now it is stuck, dead in the water. > > OK I was chief cook for 20 years and has a myriad of volunteer people > who were involved in cooking. We had a rule for our volunteer cooks and > there were about 35 or 40 of them. The rule was cook what you want but > cook, but enough. Enough was a nebulous figure. We had tons of corn on the > cob from the valley. Fish from Galveston, A roast pig, brisket, beef clod, > chicken, turkey, hot links from Fredericksburg, bean salad, fruit salad, > salad salad, black beans, refried beans, tortillas, pie, cake, cookies, a > million brownies, chicken, Hatch chilis, gazpacho. all manner of stuff, we > once had quail, and the people gobbled it up. > > All prepared by THE CAVER COOKS for the fun of cooking it. That tradition > has died it would seem. Maybe caver don't cook anymore? Not sure why but > the old cooks never got any new cooks to volunteer to take the reins. > > Maybe there was a great loss in cooking ability. I hate to say this but I > haven't eaten the meal at OTR is four years. I am not sure why because I > pay for it, but the last one just didn't meet my expectations. I apologize > to those who worked so hard and long but what is, is and I am a dyed in the > wool food Nazi. We didn't need a food trailer to cook in we just built > fires and got after it. > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Paradise Canyon >> October 12-15, 2017 >> >> >> --Texas Caver >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> [email protected] | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/te >> [email protected]/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> > > > > -- > Charlie Loving > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > [email protected] | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > [email protected]/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > [email protected] | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > [email protected]/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > -- Charlie Loving
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