May I very respectfully write,as one who has sincere admiration,that
negative exchanges are simply deleted without reading.
YM

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:32 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Never as long as you swines are embedded KR
>
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 18:47, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sirs,
>>
>> Great English of the former I R S officer who makes correction to my
>> language.
>>
>> *I is ??? * If he meant It is- Yes, this response shows the *hurried
>> inborn nature of the former IRS *Sri Rajaram Krishnamurthy.
>>
>> You have stated Foxes are foxes. Yes. They cannot be dogs. But who are
>> the foxes? Write clearly if you have decency.
>>
>> When every member is trying for stopping abusing mails, you have started
>> again calling some as FOX. When will you improve sir?
>>
>> First stop blaming others sir. All the groups will improve with
>> fragrance.If can't put fragrance, kindly stop spreading bad odor.
>>
>> Gopalakrishnan
>>
>> On Friday, 30 June, 2023 at 07:02:48 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear folks
>>
>> Backed against the wall without means of escape when confronted with the
>> truth, KR ex-IRS now desperately resorts to plain defamation, to cover his
>> exposed rear.    He writes:-
>>
>> *"Utter falsity by both.I is Narayaanasamy who twisted it as if I
>> accepted and and called my mother Vibachari and I have that email."*
>>
>> 1.  What is it that he "accepted"?  The undeniable fact that he emailed
>> Sri Gopalakrishnan, saying, *"You are 72, he is 92;  what is my loss if
>> my mother is a prostitute?"*
>>
>> 2. Yes, by all means please produce the alleged email in which I "twisted
>> it" and called his mother a Vibachari.
>>
>> 3. Do it now, IMMEDIATELY, without further shilly-shallying.
>>
>> All is not yet lost.
>>
>> If KR ex-IRS alias Rajaram K alias other assumed disguises really, truly,
>> honestly, genuinely, and sincerely wants to know who is my father, there is
>> a perfectly fit, proper, and orthodox way to do so.
>>
>> Let him attend the next abdikam which I perform for my father, when he
>> will hear my reciting the gothram and names of my father, my grandfather,
>> and my great-grandfather, in their respective personae of vasu, rudra, and
>> aadithya.
>>
>> *But there is an inviolable pre-condition.*
>>
>> He must first, after taking a head-to-toe bath in clean water, wear his
>> triple yajnopaveetham evidencing his Braahmanic identity as having had
>> upanayanam done, undergone vivaaham with a Braahmana virgin, and produced
>> legitimate children.
>>
>> He must put on forehead marks with vibhoothi, chandanam, and kumkumam
>> signifying he is indeed a fit and proper person to be invited.  He must
>> wear soman-veshti-uttareeyam and rudraaksha-maalai as he is attending my
>> father's solemn abdikam.
>>
>> He must perform his abhivaadanam before me, reciting the names of his
>> thri-rishis, gothram, soothram, veda-saakhaa, naama as conferred on him
>> during naama-karanam.  Then he must perform shaashtaanga namaskaaram to me
>> with the words, "aham asmi bhoh!".
>>
>> I shall welcome him as a shavandi-kotthan, and give him rice,
>> vegetables, and spices for him to cook a meal for himself outside my house,
>> in my garden, and consume it alone there, thereafter cleaning up the place,
>> and leaving, without looking back at my house.
>>
>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:21 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Utter falsity by both.I is Narayaanasamy who twisted it as if I accepted
>> and and called my mother Vibachari and I have that email and since then my
>> repartee started; do not bring in Gopala as are you voice culture for him,
>> who wrote, tongue in cheek first time about my IRS and English and still
>> persist. And I retort back as I have a right to do so. The pandora's box
>> was opened by both and unless they rectify their actions , it cannot as the
>> liars are not to be trusted. For example, recently when there were no
>> emails from N and G, I also did not write anything. An aged 97 if he writes
>> nonsense , u people should address him only and I am not responsible for
>> the language used; it is tit for tat; and if anyone of you say , you stop
>> clapping ; all will set right; i do not trust as the foxes are only foxes.
>> As a matter of fact N and G owe me an apology. Thank you KR IRS 29 6 23
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 06:01, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sri N Sekar and Sri Ramaswamy
>>
>> My sincerest thanks to both of you for your concerns and responses.
>>
>> My researched essay was in response to Rajaram Krishnamurthy alias KR
>> ex-IRS 28623's extremely provocative and intolerable, indeed incendiary,
>> email to Sri Gopalakrishnan, to me *AND TO OTHERS* on the Internet as
>> follows:-
>>
>> *"Who is the father of narayanasamy? who knows?;  he has some initials
>> which he professes, as a MAMA does all the tiprofession. So nayunda
>> maven is correct Have fun MAMA fuck off."*
>>
>> He has just sent to Sri Gopalakrishnan and to me in person a further
>> email containing absolute filth, to which I do not propose to reply.
>>
>> I have similarly ignored several earlier filth emails sent to me
>> personally by him.
>>
>> *But he seems to take my silence as licence for him to wax more and more
>> eloquent with his filth.*
>>
>> Sri Gopalakrishnan has appealed to him several times to cease.  But
>> he only responded with more corrosive, more offensive, more filthy emails.
>>
>> Can either of you, or both of you, kindly muzzle him effectively?  Thanks.
>>
>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 2:14 PM Rama <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>> With great pain I have chosen to respond and add to Sh Sekar's mail
>> comments.
>>
>> Sh Sekar is right. Very filthy languages are being used dragging in
>> between  the respected parents and ancestors. While respected elderly
>> members contribute good anecdotes in our forum ,  the languages used in
>> their fight are totally unacceptable and condemnable.
>> I wonder how the "Moderator" and other members are tolerating such
>> exchanges.
>>
>> Hope wiser sense prevails and please refrain from using derogatory
>> remarks .
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Rama
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 10:21, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> Namaskaram.
>>
>> *I refer to all the parties concerned in these exchanges*.
>>
>> I normally skip these exchanges but happened to read this one,
>> unfortunately, to my utter dismay and anguish.
>>
>> *Please Sir, I request you with folded hands and after doing repeated
>> Namaskarams.*
>>
>> Kindly refrain from calling someone's parents names and ridiculing them.
>>
>> We all have our parents Sir, and we should all feel terribly upset by any
>> reference to any of them. They don't have to be necessarily our parents.
>>
>> Our Religion places the womenfolk on a high pedestal Sir, equating them
>> to Goddess Mahalakshmi.
>>
>> *Parents, any parents, are worthy of being respected and revered. We are
>> parents ourselves Sir. *
>>
>> Again my humble request Sir.  Kindly refrain from any reference to one's
>> parents.  Our fight, if at all there is a need for it, should be on issues
>> and not on personalities.
>>
>> I hope you won't take umbrage on me for writing this.
>>
>> *You are perhaps the senior most person in this group Sir, and should
>> guide us on the right path, if any of us go astray. *
>>
>> *I hope you will pardon me for writing this.  I value elders' Blessings. *
>>
>> Namaskarams again.
>>
>> N Sekar
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 06:55:57 AM GMT+4, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear folks
>>
>> An exciting and interest-fraught vista of doubt, uncertainty and
>> speculation is opened by our hero KR ex-IRS 29623 openly and publicly
>> asking us who his own father is.
>>
>> Very much like his widely-admired, frequently-quoted, much-published
>> predecessor Sathyakaama Jabaali whose mother told him that she did not know
>> his gothram because when young she had served so many guests and visitors
>> to her house, and hence did not know who her son's father was.
>>
>> Our hero identifies himself regularly by his two initials "KR".  These
>> initials can stand for the German words Kakerlake Rauber, meaning "thieving
>> cockroach".
>>
>> The same initials can also stand for Krishnamurthy Raajaaraam.
>>
>> Once our hero signed off as "Rajaram K".
>>
>> But which is the father, and which is the son?
>>
>> Christian practice is to put the personal name first, followed by the
>> father's name as surname.  That would mean that Krishnamurthy is the
>> father, and Raajaaraam the son.  But our practice is to put the father's
>> name in front.   However, by regularly identifying himself as "KR", our
>> hero seems to assure us that Raajaaraam is the father, and Krishnamurthy
>> the son.
>>
>> Who sleeps with the mother?
>>
>> *Could it well be that the Oedipus cult prevails in his family?*
>>
>> According to legend, Greek King Oedipus married and slept with his mother
>> Jocasta and had four children by her.
>>
>> Same with our hero "KR" alias "Rajaram K"?  He slept with his mother the
>> call-girl as he had confessed?  And therefore he does not know who his
>> father was?
>>
>> Was there rampant incest in KR's family?  Did he sleep also with his
>> sisters, daughters, daughters-in-law?
>>
>> Again according to Greek legend, Gaia (Earth) had 12 children with her
>> son Uranus (Sky): - six sons and six daughters.  The sons "consorted" (i.e.
>> mated) with the sisters, and produced children of their own.
>>
>> Zeus fathered a daughter with his older sister Demeter.  The sea-god
>> Phorcys fathered many offspring by his sister
>> Ceto.  Mortal Myrrha committed tincest with her father Theias, and bore
>> Adonis.
>>
>> In Egyptian mythology, Horus, the grandson of Geb, had his own mother
>> Isis become his imperial consort.  Shu and Tefnut were brother and sister,
>> and they produced offspring Geb and Nut.
>>
>> In the Bible, the Holy Book of Jews, Muslims and Christians, Sarah
>> marries her half-brother Abraham (see Genesis); and Lot's two daughters
>> seduce their intoxicated father and give birth to sons Moab and Ammon, each
>> of whom found their own dynasties (see Genesis).
>>
>> Jacob's first-born son Reuben had sex with his father's concubine
>> Bilhah.  Judah, Jacob's fourth son, had sex with his daughter-in-law Tamar.
>>
>> According to the Quran, Allah/God commanded Prophet Muhammad to marry his
>> own daughter-in-law Zaynab, wife of his son, which Muhammad did.
>>
>> *So, there are ample past precedents for our hero to doubt his ancestry
>> and to ask us to find out who is his own father.   And also for us to ask,
>> in turn, whether he slept with his mother a la Oedipus, his daughters,
>> daughters-in-law, and sisters.*
>>
>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>
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