The great idiot of the earth Nar Nar arthu asamy narayanasamy naragal, as usual blabbered, for the n+1th time. he is a bastard; but he is asking churning the initials straight and on mirror image and raising the doubt of the earth, who is son who is father Krishnamurthy or Rajaram? My doubt can also be similar to S and N. Who is the father and who is the son?. Why should I go all the way to Singapore to hear the abhivadaye performed? Ramnath had clearly said all are zero; and IRS etc are also zero;then how abhivadaye is not zero? if abhivadaye is permitted as it is not zero but title, then all have values. Who is confusing whom? Ramnath or nargalsamy. Of all the things I can also raise the same question to Narayanasamy, whether he fucked his own mother and if so how can he say abhivadhaye etc? May be slept with his sisters and daughters in laws also that is the greatest ayogya and why all the mantras? Road pickers are writing and jalras are expanding unashamedly. I am ashamed of the one rogue who is 97.
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 16:22, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear folks > > An exciting and interest-fraught vista of doubt, uncertainty and > speculation was originally opened by our hero KR ex-IRS 29623 openly and > publicly asking us who his own father is. > > Our irrepressible madman-hero KR ex-IRS alias KR IRS 30 6 23 alias "K > Rajaram IRS then now and forever in history," alias several > other avathaarams identifies himself regularly by his two initials "KR". > These initials can stand for the German words Kakerlake Rauber, meaning > "thieving cockroach". > > The same initials can also stand for Krishnamurthy Raajaaraam. > > Once our hero signed off as "Rajaram K", and on another occasion as r > Krishnamurthy. > > But which is the father, and which is the son? > > After referring to Greek King Oedipus and others, I concluded:- > > *So, there are ample past precedents for our hero to doubt his ancestry > and to ask us to find out who is his own father. And also for us to ask, > in turn, whether he slept with his mother a la Oedipus, his daughters, > daughters-in-law, and sisters.* > > Now let me quote the additional precedent of Vyaasa, illegitimate son of a > wandering casteless ascetic Paraashara and an innocent adopted daughter of > a shoodra fisherman, born secretly on an island in the river. > > On his mother's instructions, Vyaasa (who had vowed a life of celibacy), > slept with a dead king's two widows -- Ambika and Ambaalika -- and with > Ambaalika's shoodra maidservant, and produced a son by each of them. > > Did our hero sleep with widows and their maidservants? Or was he born out > of such encounters? > > Be that as it may, I have pointed to him an honourable way out. I wrote:- > > "Let him attend the next abdikam which I perform for my father, when he > will hear my reciting the gothram and names of my father, my grandfather, > and my great-grandfather, in their respective personae of vasu, rudra, and > aadithya. > > *"But there is an inviolable pre-condition.* > > "He must first, after taking a head-to-toe bath in clean water, wear his > triple yajnopaveetham evidencing his Braahmanic identity as having had > upanayanam done, undergone vivaaham with a Braahmana virgin, and produced > legitimate children. > > "He must put on forehead marks with vibhoothi, chandanam, and kumkumam > signifying he is indeed a fit and proper person to be invited. He must > wear soman-veshti-uttareeyam and rudraaksha-maalai as he is attending my > father's solemn abdikam. > > "He must perform his abhivaadanam before me, reciting the names of his > thri-rishis, gothram, soothram, veda-saakhaa, naama as conferred on him > during naama-karanam. Then he must perform shaashtaanga namaskaaram to me > with the words, "aham asmi bhoh!". > > "I shall welcome him as a shavandi-kotthan, and give him rice, > vegetables, and spices for him to cook a meal for himself outside my house, > in my garden, and consume it alone there, thereafter cleaning up the place, > and leaving, without looking back at my house." > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 1:15 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I do not know how many will know the whole contexts going around self, >> Gopala, YM, KS, Ramanath etc as all conveniently hide their identity within >> a small circle, in order that the volume of errors are not exposed or that >> is their circle to spin around. Gopala is an idiot as he will write as a >> boss, but pretends that he is unable to understand with a symbol ???, once >> cornered as a swine. >> There is a tendency among the knowledge seekers(??/) the idea only to >> read the first and the last page of a book. And when things are foggy, as >> reading with the misty glued eyes, they run on materials , not of main >> subject, but on things which they cannot even dream of in their lifetime, >> that too hereafter. Sigmund Fraud called such attitude ,as LOW LEVEL >> SENSE PROJECTIONS, as envy, hatred over the society for not granting that >> kind of boon, left in the lurch etc. That is the psychology determined, >> existing in majority. >> There another one called, biased versions and thinking one sided; >> which is motherly version; a mother always thinks that her son alone on >> this earth perfect; for such characters, the impact implanted in their mind >> against the dwesha cult, on XYZ, emerges out, once bad-stream from certain >> quarters, overflow as a payasam, but when flown from the envious materials >> , it turns out to be a poison. The mind gets the veil, all the time >> thinking that Periyar is the greatest who called all Venkayam, muttal etc >> as Vedic words; but when the brahmin used it, it turns out to such, as bad >> words outflow, unethical to being a brahmin!. That is casteism, >> regionalism, Racism etc. Jihadi. That is very well known to them. but the >> heck of pleasure they yearned out of it, is undescribable. I need not name >> anyone as I had stated them in words. >> And there are a few who writes treatise only on references like >> nayunda mavane, as they cleverly passby, as if seen only for the first >> time, while , without courage, to write treatise on others, in that >> pattern, as they did not see any of them; they may even raise >> their eyebrows and say "IS IT"? It will be gratificatory, if such learnt >> write treatise on "Paratchi petra" written more than a year and even longer >> than that; or they can write so many treatise which i can refer to them to >> write; but if the fear is the key, then , they shall remain silent. That is >> the paradox of Karl Popper. >> KR IRS 30 6 23 >> >> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 08:20, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sir, >>> >>> I am going to mark the mails of Sri Rajaram and APS Mani to spam now on >>> wards.* Let them understand they are IGNORED.* With your kind >>> permission I am marking copies to all the groups in which I am a member. >>> Gopalakrishnan >>> >>> On Friday, 30 June, 2023 at 07:53:44 pm IST, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Sir, >>> Just do not read the posts of Sri Rajaram and delete them as you do not >>> like his posts or replies.Don't simply respond or even read.I have been >>> doing it for many years with the posts of some members and they stopped as >>> I have not been responding.My own posts have been misinterpreted or >>> diverted to some other topic.I just ignore them.Afterall all members can >>> read and understand on their own. >>> Please keep in mind that in old age many mental deficiencies take hold >>> and we cannot help. >>> THe fact is,all of you are gifted,but unfortunately misunderstand each >>> other. >>> YM >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 6:11 PM gopala krishnan <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sir, >>> >>> I like to hear from you what is negative exchanges in detail if toy >>> could write to me or in the forum. >>> Gopalakrishnan >>> >>> On Friday, 30 June, 2023 at 10:57:31 am IST, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> May I very respectfully write,as one who has sincere admiration,that >>> negative exchanges are simply deleted without reading. >>> YM >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:32 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Never as long as you swines are embedded KR >>> >>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 18:47, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Sirs, >>> >>> Great English of the former I R S officer who makes correction to my >>> language. >>> >>> *I is ??? * If he meant It is- Yes, this response shows the *hurried >>> inborn nature of the former IRS *Sri Rajaram Krishnamurthy. >>> >>> You have stated Foxes are foxes. Yes. They cannot be dogs. But who are >>> the foxes? Write clearly if you have decency. >>> >>> When every member is trying for stopping abusing mails, you have started >>> again calling some as FOX. When will you improve sir? >>> >>> First stop blaming others sir. All the groups will improve with >>> fragrance.If can't put fragrance, kindly stop spreading bad odor. >>> >>> Gopalakrishnan >>> >>> On Friday, 30 June, 2023 at 07:02:48 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Dear folks >>> >>> Backed against the wall without means of escape when confronted with the >>> truth, KR ex-IRS now desperately resorts to plain defamation, to cover his >>> exposed rear. He writes:- >>> >>> *"Utter falsity by both.I is Narayaanasamy who twisted it as if I >>> accepted and and called my mother Vibachari and I have that email."* >>> >>> 1. What is it that he "accepted"? The undeniable fact that he emailed >>> Sri Gopalakrishnan, saying, *"You are 72, he is 92; what is my loss if >>> my mother is a prostitute?"* >>> >>> 2. Yes, by all means please produce the alleged email in which I >>> "twisted it" and called his mother a Vibachari. >>> >>> 3. Do it now, IMMEDIATELY, without further shilly-shallying. >>> >>> All is not yet lost. >>> >>> If KR ex-IRS alias Rajaram K alias other assumed disguises really, >>> truly, honestly, genuinely, and sincerely wants to know who is my father, >>> there is a perfectly fit, proper, and orthodox way to do so. >>> >>> Let him attend the next abdikam which I perform for my father, when he >>> will hear my reciting the gothram and names of my father, my grandfather, >>> and my great-grandfather, in their respective personae of vasu, rudra, and >>> aadithya. >>> >>> *But there is an inviolable pre-condition.* >>> >>> He must first, after taking a head-to-toe bath in clean water, wear his >>> triple yajnopaveetham evidencing his Braahmanic identity as having had >>> upanayanam done, undergone vivaaham with a Braahmana virgin, and produced >>> legitimate children. >>> >>> He must put on forehead marks with vibhoothi, chandanam, and kumkumam >>> signifying he is indeed a fit and proper person to be invited. He must >>> wear soman-veshti-uttareeyam and rudraaksha-maalai as he is attending my >>> father's solemn abdikam. >>> >>> He must perform his abhivaadanam before me, reciting the names of his >>> thri-rishis, gothram, soothram, veda-saakhaa, naama as conferred on him >>> during naama-karanam. Then he must perform shaashtaanga namaskaaram to me >>> with the words, "aham asmi bhoh!". >>> >>> I shall welcome him as a shavandi-kotthan, and give him rice, >>> vegetables, and spices for him to cook a meal for himself outside my house, >>> in my garden, and consume it alone there, thereafter cleaning up the place, >>> and leaving, without looking back at my house. >>> >>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:21 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Utter falsity by both.I is Narayaanasamy who twisted it as if I accepted >>> and and called my mother Vibachari and I have that email and since then my >>> repartee started; do not bring in Gopala as are you voice culture for him, >>> who wrote, tongue in cheek first time about my IRS and English and still >>> persist. And I retort back as I have a right to do so. The pandora's box >>> was opened by both and unless they rectify their actions , it cannot as the >>> liars are not to be trusted. For example, recently when there were no >>> emails from N and G, I also did not write anything. An aged 97 if he writes >>> nonsense , u people should address him only and I am not responsible for >>> the language used; it is tit for tat; and if anyone of you say , you stop >>> clapping ; all will set right; i do not trust as the foxes are only foxes. >>> As a matter of fact N and G owe me an apology. Thank you KR IRS 29 6 23 >>> >>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 06:01, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Sri N Sekar and Sri Ramaswamy >>> >>> My sincerest thanks to both of you for your concerns and responses. >>> >>> My researched essay was in response to Rajaram Krishnamurthy alias KR >>> ex-IRS 28623's extremely provocative and intolerable, indeed incendiary, >>> email to Sri Gopalakrishnan, to me *AND TO OTHERS* on the Internet as >>> follows:- >>> >>> *"Who is the father of narayanasamy? who knows?; he has some initials >>> which he professes, as a MAMA does all the tiprofession. So nayunda >>> maven is correct Have fun MAMA fuck off."* >>> >>> He has just sent to Sri Gopalakrishnan and to me in person a further >>> email containing absolute filth, to which I do not propose to reply. >>> >>> I have similarly ignored several earlier filth emails sent to me >>> personally by him. >>> >>> *But he seems to take my silence as licence for him to wax more and more >>> eloquent with his filth.* >>> >>> Sri Gopalakrishnan has appealed to him several times to cease. But >>> he only responded with more corrosive, more offensive, more filthy emails. >>> >>> Can either of you, or both of you, kindly muzzle him effectively? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 2:14 PM Rama <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> With great pain I have chosen to respond and add to Sh Sekar's mail >>> comments. >>> >>> Sh Sekar is right. Very filthy languages are being used dragging in >>> between the respected parents and ancestors. While respected elderly >>> members contribute good anecdotes in our forum , the languages used in >>> their fight are totally unacceptable and condemnable. >>> I wonder how the "Moderator" and other members are tolerating such >>> exchanges. >>> >>> Hope wiser sense prevails and please refrain from using derogatory >>> remarks . >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> Rama >>> >>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 10:21, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Sir, >>> >>> Namaskaram. >>> >>> *I refer to all the parties concerned in these exchanges*. >>> >>> I normally skip these exchanges but happened to read this one, >>> unfortunately, to my utter dismay and anguish. >>> >>> *Please Sir, I request you with folded hands and after doing repeated >>> Namaskarams.* >>> >>> Kindly refrain from calling someone's parents names and ridiculing >>> them. >>> >>> We all have our parents Sir, and we should all feel terribly upset by >>> any reference to any of them. They don't have to be necessarily our >>> parents. >>> >>> Our Religion places the womenfolk on a high pedestal Sir, equating them >>> to Goddess Mahalakshmi. >>> >>> *Parents, any parents, are worthy of being respected and revered. We are >>> parents ourselves Sir. * >>> >>> Again my humble request Sir. Kindly refrain from any reference to one's >>> parents. Our fight, if at all there is a need for it, should be on issues >>> and not on personalities. >>> >>> I hope you won't take umbrage on me for writing this. >>> >>> *You are perhaps the senior most person in this group Sir, and should >>> guide us on the right path, if any of us go astray. * >>> >>> *I hope you will pardon me for writing this. I value elders' >>> Blessings. * >>> >>> Namaskarams again. >>> >>> N Sekar >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 06:55:57 AM GMT+4, Narayanaswamy Iyer < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Dear folks >>> >>> An exciting and interest-fraught vista of doubt, uncertainty and >>> speculation is opened by our hero KR ex-IRS 29623 openly and publicly >>> asking us who his own father is. >>> >>> Very much like his widely-admired, frequently-quoted, much-published >>> predecessor Sathyakaama Jabaali whose mother told him that she did not know >>> his gothram because when young she had served so many guests and visitors >>> to her house, and hence did not know who her son's father was. >>> >>> Our hero identifies himself regularly by his two initials "KR". These >>> initials can stand for the German words Kakerlake Rauber, meaning "thieving >>> cockroach". >>> >>> The same initials can also stand for Krishnamurthy Raajaaraam. >>> >>> Once our hero signed off as "Rajaram K". >>> >>> But which is the father, and which is the son? >>> >>> Christian practice is to put the personal name first, followed by the >>> father's name as surname. That would mean that Krishnamurthy is the >>> father, and Raajaaraam the son. But our practice is to put the father's >>> name in front. However, by regularly identifying himself as "KR", our >>> hero seems to assure us that Raajaaraam is the father, and Krishnamurthy >>> the son. >>> >>> Who sleeps with the mother? >>> >>> *Could it well be that the Oedipus cult prevails in his family?* >>> >>> According to legend, Greek King Oedipus married and slept with his >>> mother Jocasta and had four children by her. >>> >>> Same with our hero "KR" alias "Rajaram K"? He slept with his mother the >>> call-girl as he had confessed? And therefore he does not know who his >>> father was? >>> >>> Was there rampant incest in KR's family? Did he sleep also with his >>> sisters, daughters, daughters-in-law? >>> >>> Again according to Greek legend, Gaia (Earth) had 12 children with her >>> son Uranus (Sky): - six sons and six daughters. The sons "consorted" (i.e. >>> mated) with the sisters, and produced children of their own. >>> >>> Zeus fathered a daughter with his older sister Demeter. The sea-god >>> Phorcys fathered many offspring by his sister >>> Ceto. Mortal Myrrha committed tincest with her father Theias, and bore >>> Adonis. >>> >>> In Egyptian mythology, Horus, the grandson of Geb, had his own mother >>> Isis become his imperial consort. Shu and Tefnut were brother and sister, >>> and they produced offspring Geb and Nut. >>> >>> In the Bible, the Holy Book of Jews, Muslims and Christians, Sarah >>> marries her half-brother Abraham (see Genesis); and Lot's two daughters >>> seduce their intoxicated father and give birth to sons Moab and Ammon, each >>> of whom found their own dynasties (see Genesis). >>> >>> Jacob's first-born son Reuben had sex with his father's concubine >>> Bilhah. Judah, Jacob's fourth son, had sex with his daughter-in-law Tamar. >>> >>> According to the Quran, Allah/God commanded Prophet Muhammad to marry >>> his own daughter-in-law Zaynab, wife of his son, which Muhammad did. >>> >>> *So, there are ample past precedents for our hero to doubt his ancestry >>> and to ask us to find out who is his own father. 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