Sir,
So in nutshell in the groups Mr Narayanaswamy and his likes are telling lies.
You only speak truth, pure truth.
How dare you are to write, another is speaking lie. They will have their own
say.
You can write I am writing truth. Fine.
You have no right to tell another is telling lie.
Gopalakrishnan
On Sunday, 9 July, 2023 at 12:13:05 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
<[email protected]> wrote:
Mentally and intellectually paralysed by my many shafts of truths recounting
nine numbered major lies he propagated in these columns, the cowardly liar
seeks to hide behind one lie and tries unsuccessfully to bluster his way out.
He THE LIAR NARAYANASAMY now says:-ANOTHER STORY AS HE DOES KNOW OR READ ANY
OTHER VEDIC SCRIPTURES, BUT PRETENDED BEFORE HIS SAMCHAS THAT HE IS LEARNED. He
is a liar and so far never accept anything as I liar Narayanasamy only said it;
I had quoted a big history; he and his samchas are pakistani liars so every
time they will be cracking up only jokes; he the liar Narayanasamy will writing
only like this , demanding this and that; but when the proof is presented , no
other are going to pass judgement and he will not accede; fools behave only
like that; and so brothers and his samchas , never exclaim him asa great
learnt; let him keep crying like this till his last day. Let him sync the hoax
master even at 97. What he writes is only explaining his own character and
self-confession. The day he wrote thirukkural he had fallen down dead. Someone
is waiting to write about whether he is a Jain . Narayanasamy is stuffless and
there it ends. Thank u da narayanasamy.
On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 at 23:08, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear folks
Mentally and intellectually paralysed by my many shafts of truths recounting
nine numbered major lies he propagated in these columns, the cowardly liar
seeks to hide behind one lie and tries unsuccessfully to bluster his way out.
He now says:-
(1) there are so many recorded myths as to, Murugan teaching father at
Himalaya, Othimalai , swami malai etc., and (2) Othimalai's story is available
in the blog of someone.
The liar is heaping lies upon lies as is his incurable notorious habit, and
tries to wriggle and struggle his way out.
No way.
(1) there are NO recorded or other myths as to Murugan teaching Lord Shiva
either at the Himalayas or at Oathimalai "etc"; only at Swaamimalai.
(2) The lying blogger who advertised shamelessly the false myth about
Oathimalai Murugan is MOTOB, Master of Tamil obscenities and blasphemies, KR
ex-IRS 9723 himself.
On digging deeper into the Oathimalai myth and false gospel of Untruth, I came
upon the following unproved and unprovable allegations:-
(a) Lord Brahma, after completing his vocational assignment of creation, did
not know the pranavam or anything about it;
(b) therefore one-headed Murugan caught hold of Him and imprisoned Him in an
iron cage near Oathimalai;
(c) Lord Brahma appealed to Lord Shiva for help;
(d) Lord Shiva appeared; and interceded with Murugan and succeeded in getting
Lord Brahma released;
(e) Murugan explained to Lord Shiva that he imprisoned Lord Brahma because the
last-named did not know the pranavam OM;
(f) Lord Shiva then demanded to know whether Murugan himself knew the pranavam
OM;
(g) Murugan wrongly interpreted Lord Shiva's words of challenge as requesting
an exposition of OM, and proceeded IN ERROR to comply with the unintended
request, plus recite the texts of the vedams ;
(h) Murugan seized Lord Brahma's four heads and put them on, IN ADDITION to his
own single protruding head; and thus became five-headed;
(i) there is no explanation about the six legs of Oathimalai Murugan;
(j) Oathimalai is claimed to be 6,000 feet high, and the modest Murugan temple
is claimed to be at its top;
(k) However, at latest count, there are only 900 steps leading up the hill,
accounting for a height of only 450 feet;
(l) there is no explanation how visitors are expected to climb the balance
6,550 feet.
Now for more deliberate lies from serial consistent liar KR ex-IRS, MOTOB:-
(1) He wrote to Sri Gopalakrishnan in these very columns emphasising that he
himself had used as abusive material only one of the 1,008 naamas in vishnu
sahasranaamam, and warned that he had another 1,007 words of abuse in reserve.
The habitual liar had never come across, much less read, vishnu sahranaamam,
which has only exactly 1,000 naamas, and NOT 1,008 as he lied.
(2) He lied that I had called his mother a Vibachari, and vowed to produce my
email as proof.
I challenged him to produce the alleged proof IMMEDIATELY without any
shllly-shallying.
Despite the passage of days and nights, he has not been able to do so, because
there was and is none to produce.
(3) He lies totally when he accuses me of "always criticising Veda Vyasa, our
Indian Vedas and Vedangas, ancient veda pandits, people like Ramakrishna,
Vivekananda, chinmaya, sivananda etc".
Can he produce actual incontrovertible independent documentary PROOF that I
have always criticised:-
(a) Our Indian Vedas;
(b) our Indian Vedangas;
(c) Ramakrishna;
(d) Vivekananda;
(e) Chinmaya; and
(f) Sivananda?
Again, supply the proofs IMMEDIATELY, without any shilly-shallying.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 12:14 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:
NOW I UNDERSTOOD THE CAUSE OF BLABBERINGS OF NARAYANASWAMY THE MENTALLY
DERANGED, VISIONLESS, AND SENSELESS PERSON WITH DEMENTIA, WRITING ON A MISTAKEN
IDENTITY. HIS IDENTITY IS IN DOUBT. AND IT IS NOT A WONDER, HE IS UNDER
DELUSION ALSO. He wrote some nonsense yesterday as I wrote; and when I
questioned it, he defended it as "I have not answered"; that is his stupidity
as he understands himself wrongly as great; so there is no wonder when he
understands texts and persons; today he writes i gave him some number and he is
talking to someone at Mumbai. Then his othimalai version triggered that he is
in delirium too. I really pity his condition. I should not have thought that he
is a fool; because his brain is damaged; so let him live in his dream world;
rest in peace. Incidentally, apart from all these things, why does he
always criticise Veda Vyasa, our Indian Vedas and Vedangas, ancient veda
pandits, people like Ramakrishna, Vivekananda, chinmaya, sivananda etc ? He
has never learnt to that level nor is he a guru for all of them; then he writes
such a filth; and writes someone's texts as that of someone ; writes like a
child , so incoherently; then I understood that he is so bad mentally. He has
no memory but only a stray imagination with the words of an Autistic child. Let
him rest in peace. However what he does not know is there are so many recorded
myths as to, Murugan teaching father at Himalaya, Othimalai , swami malai etc.
But as a deranged person he can remember only swamimalai and that too some
one's write up and he firmly believed it to be true also. No one can help him
at this age at this stage. Paithiyan means an insult. so mentally misaligned.
Othimalai's story is available in the blog of someone and let him go over
and fight with that blogger. Have a wonderful day K Rajaram IRS 6723
On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 at 04:23, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear folks
Recently, I wrote:-
"KR IRS 5723 should follow his own advice:-
"Never lie and lies do not yield any result."
"The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is that HE LIES ALL THE
TIME. Repeatedly, serially, unashamedly, transparently, and is always caught
with his pants down and no underwear."
And I gave five numbered examples of his deliberate lying in these columns.
He was unable to deny any one of them, but retorted with proof of his incurable
insanity and his penchant for obscenities.
Here are four more examples of his deliberate lying in these column:-
(1) He claimed that his mysterious Oathimalai Hill 1,800 metres high and
difficult to climb was the site where a five-headed and eight-legged Lord
Subrahmania imparted instruction in the vedas to his father Lord Shiva.
That never occurred. It was at svaami-malai, one of the six aaruveedus, that
Lord Shiva received upadesham on the pranavam "OM" from Lord Subrahmania.
(2) He lied that he always resided in Chennai. He denied my enquiry as to
whether he also resided in Mumbai.
(3) Yet, when someone enquired how to contact him, he replied with the
following information:-
(a) telephone number 0993021-0689 Mumbai;(b) [email protected];(c)
[email protected].
(4) The incorrigible incurable idiot's initials are given by himself as "KR".
We pronounce the first initial as "kay", not "kee" or "key".
Yet, the serial liar maintains that his e-mail address is keyarincome (fomerly
keyartax).
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 3:04 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:
How wonderfully Ramanatham describes himself and his family ? Long live that
tribe. Instead I can give you another title Nayunda mavale ? Keep it the
bitch. Don't provoke me it is not good for you Ramnath End
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 at 02:59, Ramnath V <[email protected]> wrote:
The long-lasting mystery about who is KR ex-IRS' father has been clearly,
unequivocally, distinctly, permanently, and authoritatively solved by the great
man himself
He describes himself in these columns again and again solemnly as NAYUNDA
MAVANE.
Being an unschooled, uneducated, know-nothing sewer/gutterTamil chauvinist who
denigrates and despises Kerala and all things Malayalam, he messes up the
Malayalam filthy swear-words NAAYINDE MAVANEY.
HIS FATHER IS A DOG AND HE IS THE SON OF A DOG.
He is then (formerly), now, and FOREVER the son of a stray dog in the streets
of Red Dog-town Chennai, which engaged in copulation with a woman.
He now even admits to bestiality in his ancestry, as he formerly advertised
that his mother was a prostitute (which term his always-admiring lap-puppy
Markandeyulu re-wrote in these columns as sex-worker).
So, kudos and congrats to the self-proclaimed NAAYINDE MAVANEY, the puppy
produced by a prostitute, and who claims that he is now and forever of such
strange descent
WHAT A TRIBUTE TO THIS SCUM IRS.
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023, 22:38 Rajaram Krishnamurthy, <[email protected]> wrote:
நன்றி. ராமா நாத்தம் அவர்களே. ஷிட்டின் மறுபெயர் துர்நாற்றம் அல்லது நாத்தம்.
தங்களின் முகமூடி அணிந்த நடிப்பை விட, எரிச்சலில் கத்தும் உங்கள் பண்பை விட , எனது
இ வ ப, தகுதி மட்டும் அல்ல , தக்க உழைப்பின் உயர்வு. உங்களை போல் உள்ள எரிச்சல்
ஆசாமிகள் அதற்குச் சான்று. உங்களை போல் உள்ள ஊருக்கும் உதவாத தறுதலிகளாதான் எங்களை
போல நல்லார் சுவாசிக்க முடிகிறது. பன்றியை மேய்த்து எரிச்சலோடு வாழ வாழ்த்துக்கள்.
இப்போதைக்கு விடை பெறுகிறேன்
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 01:09, Ramnath V <[email protected]> wrote:
தகுதில்லாத IRS . வேலையிலிருந்து என்றோ retire ஆகிவிட்டார் . இருந்தும் IRS போல
நடிப்பு. இது தேவையா? இவரைப்போன்றோர் தலைக்கனம் பிடித்தவர்கள் . இவர்களை ஒதுக்க
வேண்டும்
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 11:48, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:
In these columns, there is a tendency for those who write their views and
advices to introduce and indentify themselves as retired IRS, IPS, GMs. etc.
We are not interested to know who you are. What are you trying to tell as
retired IRS. You are no more in Govt service. You are just a zero. Just
don't show off. Just write your name or the place where you ar\ from. And
then your chats.We don't care who you are and the bull shit you write.
Be a bit compassionate to the readers and just write what you want to write.
We will decide what to do with what you write or the bluff. Just for
Heaven's sake don't identify you as Retired Bums.
ThanksKR Thank you Ramnath Bum. Even you are a piece of shit zero; because
a fox cut its tail, it advocated all foxes to do so. The desperados in services
retire unsung and in silence, lest their (mis)deeds are hidden as a skeleto\n
in the cup boards. It is immaterial for those clay matters to question how the
neighbor shall sleep and wake up. Such buns are aplenty on this earth. We in
turn also do not care about those real zeros even in life then. So accessing an
illegal right is an offence as those 2 swines do. Thank you sir for the latent
wisdom that just came out a little K Rajaram IRS then now and forever in
history. I have nothing to hide to become a zero. My policy sir, you abuse and
you take back the shit. 30623
On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 23:03, Ramnath V <[email protected]> wrote:
In these columns, there is a tendency for those who write their views and
advices to introduce and indentify themselves as retired IRS, IPS, GMs. etc.
We are not interested to know who you are. What are you trying to tell as
retired IRS. You are no more in Govt service. You are just a zero. Just
don't show off. Just write your name or the place where you ar\ from. And
then your chats.We don't care who you are and the bull shit you write.
Be a bit compassionate to the readers and just write what you want to write.
We will decide what to do with what you write or the bluff. Just for
Heaven's sake don't identify you as Retired Bums.
Thanks
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 07:17, 'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers
<[email protected]> wrote:
Sirs,
Great English of the former I R S officer who makes correction to my language.
I is ??? If he meant It is- Yes, this response shows the hurried inborn nature
of the former IRS Sri Rajaram Krishnamurthy.
You have stated Foxes are foxes. Yes. They cannot be dogs. But who are the
foxes? Write clearly if you have decency.
When every member is trying for stopping abusing mails, you have started again
calling some as FOX. When will you improve sir?
First stop blaming others sir. All the groups will improve with fragrance.If
can't put fragrance, kindly stop spreading bad odor.
Gopalakrishnan
On Friday, 30 June, 2023 at 07:02:48 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear folks
Backed against the wall without means of escape when confronted with the truth,
KR ex-IRS now desperately resorts to plain defamation, to cover his exposed
rear. He writes:-
"Utter falsity by both.I is Narayaanasamy who twisted it as if I accepted and
and called my mother Vibachari and I have that email."
1. What is it that he "accepted"? The undeniable fact that he emailed Sri
Gopalakrishnan, saying, "You are 72, he is 92; what is my loss if my mother is
a prostitute?"
2. Yes, by all means please produce the alleged email in which I "twisted it"
and called his mother a Vibachari.
3. Do it now, IMMEDIATELY, without further shilly-shallying.
All is not yet lost.
If KR ex-IRS alias Rajaram K alias other assumed disguises really, truly,
honestly, genuinely, and sincerely wants to know who is my father, there is a
perfectly fit, proper, and orthodox way to do so.
Let him attend the next abdikam which I perform for my father, when he will
hear my reciting the gothram and names of my father, my grandfather, and my
great-grandfather, in their respective personae of vasu, rudra, and aadithya.
But there is an inviolable pre-condition.
He must first, after taking a head-to-toe bath in clean water, wear his triple
yajnopaveetham evidencing his Braahmanic identity as having had upanayanam
done, undergone vivaaham with a Braahmana virgin, and produced legitimate
children.
He must put on forehead marks with vibhoothi, chandanam, and kumkumam
signifying he is indeed a fit and proper person to be invited. He must wear
soman-veshti-uttareeyam and rudraaksha-maalai as he is attending my father's
solemn abdikam.
He must perform his abhivaadanam before me, reciting the names of his
thri-rishis, gothram, soothram, veda-saakhaa, naama as conferred on him during
naama-karanam. Then he must perform shaashtaanga namaskaaram to me with the
words, "aham asmi bhoh!".
I shall welcome him as a shavandi-kotthan, and give him rice, vegetables, and
spices for him to cook a meal for himself outside my house, in my garden, and
consume it alone there, thereafter cleaning up the place, and leaving, without
looking back at my house.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:21 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:
Utter falsity by both.I is Narayaanasamy who twisted it as if I accepted and
and called my mother Vibachari and I have that email and since then my repartee
started; do not bring in Gopala as are you voice culture for him, who wrote,
tongue in cheek first time about my IRS and English and still persist. And I
retort back as I have a right to do so. The pandora's box was opened by both
and unless they rectify their actions , it cannot as the liars are not to be
trusted. For example, recently when there were no emails from N and G, I also
did not write anything. An aged 97 if he writes nonsense , u people should
address him only and I am not responsible for the language used; it is tit for
tat; and if anyone of you say , you stop clapping ; all will set right; i do
not trust as the foxes are only foxes. As a matter of fact N and G owe me an
apology. Thank you KR IRS 29 6 23
On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 06:01, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Sri N Sekar and Sri Ramaswamy
My sincerest thanks to both of you for your concerns and responses.
My researched essay was in response to Rajaram Krishnamurthy alias KR ex-IRS
28623's extremely provocative and intolerable, indeed incendiary, email to Sri
Gopalakrishnan, to me AND TO OTHERS on the Internet as follows:-
"Who is the father of narayanasamy? who knows?; he has some initials which he
professes, as a MAMA does all the tiprofession. So nayunda maven is correct
Have fun MAMA fuck off."
He has just sent to Sri Gopalakrishnan and to me in person a further email
containing absolute filth, to which I do not propose to reply.
I have similarly ignored several earlier filth emails sent to me personally by
him.
But he seems to take my silence as licence for him to wax more and more
eloquent with his filth.
Sri Gopalakrishnan has appealed to him several times to cease. But he only
responded with more corrosive, more offensive, more filthy emails.
Can either of you, or both of you, kindly muzzle him effectively? Thanks.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 2:14 PM Rama <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear all, With great pain I have chosen to respond and add to Sh Sekar's mail
comments.
Sh Sekar is right. Very filthy languages are being used dragging in between
the respected parents and ancestors. While respected elderly members contribute
good anecdotes in our forum , the languages used in their fight are totally
unacceptable and condemnable.I wonder how the "Moderator" and other members are
tolerating such exchanges.
Hope wiser sense prevails and please refrain from using derogatory remarks .
Best regardsRama
On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 10:21, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <[email protected]>
wrote:
Dear Sir,
Namaskaram.
I refer to all the parties concerned in these exchanges.
I normally skip these exchanges but happened to read this one, unfortunately,
to my utter dismay and anguish.
Please Sir, I request you with folded hands and after doing repeated
Namaskarams.
Kindly refrain from calling someone's parents names and ridiculing them.
We all have our parents Sir, and we should all feel terribly upset by any
reference to any of them. They don't have to be necessarily our parents.
Our Religion places the womenfolk on a high pedestal Sir, equating them to
Goddess Mahalakshmi.
Parents, any parents, are worthy of being respected and revered. We are parents
ourselves Sir.
Again my humble request Sir. Kindly refrain from any reference to one's
parents. Our fight, if at all there is a need for it, should be on issues and
not on personalities.
I hope you won't take umbrage on me for writing this.
You are perhaps the senior most person in this group Sir, and should guide us
on the right path, if any of us go astray.
I hope you will pardon me for writing this. I value elders' Blessings.
Namaskarams again.
N Sekar
On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 06:55:57 AM GMT+4, Narayanaswamy Iyer
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear folks
An exciting and interest-fraught vista of doubt, uncertainty and speculation is
opened by our hero KR ex-IRS 29623 openly and publicly asking us who his own
father is.
Very much like his widely-admired, frequently-quoted, much-published
predecessor Sathyakaama Jabaali whose mother told him that she did not know his
gothram because when young she had served so many guests and visitors to her
house, and hence did not know who her son's father was.
Our hero identifies himself regularly by his two initials "KR". These initials
can stand for the German words Kakerlake Rauber, meaning "thieving cockroach".
The same initials can also stand for Krishnamurthy Raajaaraam.
Once our hero signed off as "Rajaram K".
But which is the father, and which is the son?
Christian practice is to put the personal name first, followed by the father's
name as surname. That would mean that Krishnamurthy is the father, and
Raajaaraam the son. But our practice is to put the father's name in front.
However, by regularly identifying himself as "KR", our hero seems to assure us
that Raajaaraam is the father, and Krishnamurthy the son.
Who sleeps with the mother?
Could it well be that the Oedipus cult prevails in his family?
According to legend, Greek King Oedipus married and slept with his mother
Jocasta and had four children by her.
Same with our hero "KR" alias "Rajaram K"? He slept with his mother the
call-girl as he had confessed? And therefore he does not know who his father
was?
Was there rampant incest in KR's family? Did he sleep also with his sisters,
daughters, daughters-in-law?
Again according to Greek legend, Gaia (Earth) had 12 children with her son
Uranus (Sky): - six sons and six daughters. The sons "consorted" (i.e. mated)
with the sisters, and produced children of their own.
Zeus fathered a daughter with his older sister Demeter. The sea-god Phorcys
fathered many offspring by his sister Ceto. Mortal Myrrha committed tincest
with her father Theias, and bore Adonis.
In Egyptian mythology, Horus, the grandson of Geb, had his own mother Isis
become his imperial consort. Shu and Tefnut were brother and sister, and they
produced offspring Geb and Nut.
In the Bible, the Holy Book of Jews, Muslims and Christians, Sarah marries her
half-brother Abraham (see Genesis); and Lot's two daughters seduce their
intoxicated father and give birth to sons Moab and Ammon, each of whom found
their own dynasties (see Genesis).
Jacob's first-born son Reuben had sex with his father's concubine Bilhah.
Judah, Jacob's fourth son, had sex with his daughter-in-law Tamar.
According to the Quran, Allah/God commanded Prophet Muhammad to marry his own
daughter-in-law Zaynab, wife of his son, which Muhammad did.
So, there are ample past precedents for our hero to doubt his ancestry and to
ask us to find out who is his own father. And also for us to ask, in turn,
whether he slept with his mother a la Oedipus, his daughters, daughters-in-law,
and sisters.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
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