If so, who shall get cooled? Narayabnasamy will abuse my family and
parenthood because he is helped by the stupid Gopalakrishnan who will
write nonsense and I shall stop?  Both do not insult you except stray
mockery. But he calls my family and He shall be both dead. KR

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 17:40, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Sir,
> I try to ignore as joining in the exchanges is futile.I and many others
> just want the angry atmosphere to reduce.I have been the beneficiary of
> your magnificent proficiency and I just do not want it to be clouded by
> angry exchanges.
> YM
>
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 10:45 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I do not know how many will know the whole contexts going around self,
>> Gopala, YM, KS, Ramanath etc as all conveniently hide their identity within
>> a small circle, in order that the volume of errors are not exposed or that
>> is their circle to spin around. Gopala is an idiot as he will write as a
>> boss, but pretends that he is unable to understand with a symbol ???, once
>> cornered as a swine.
>>     There is a tendency among the knowledge seekers(??/) the idea only to
>> read the first and the last page of a book. And when things are foggy, as
>> reading with the misty glued eyes, they run on materials , not of main
>> subject, but on things which they cannot even dream of in their lifetime,
>> that too hereafter.   Sigmund Fraud called such attitude ,as LOW LEVEL
>> SENSE PROJECTIONS, as envy, hatred over the society for not granting that
>> kind of boon, left in the lurch etc. That is the psychology determined,
>> existing in majority.
>>       There another one called, biased versions and thinking one sided;
>> which is motherly version; a mother always thinks that her son alone on
>> this earth perfect; for such characters, the impact implanted in their mind
>> against the dwesha cult, on XYZ, emerges out, once bad-stream from certain
>> quarters, overflow as a payasam, but when flown from the envious materials
>> , it turns out to be a poison. The mind gets the veil, all the time
>> thinking that Periyar is the greatest who called all Venkayam, muttal etc
>> as Vedic words; but when the brahmin used it, it turns out to such, as bad
>> words outflow, unethical to being a brahmin!.   That is casteism,
>> regionalism, Racism etc. Jihadi. That is very well known to them. but the
>> heck of pleasure they yearned out of it, is undescribable. I need not name
>> anyone as I had stated them in words.
>>       And there are a few who writes treatise only on references like
>> nayunda mavane, as they cleverly passby, as if seen only for the first
>> time, while , without courage, to write treatise on others, in that
>> pattern, as they did not see any of them; they may even raise
>> their eyebrows and say "IS IT"? It will be gratificatory, if such learnt
>> write treatise on "Paratchi petra" written more than a year and even longer
>> than that; or they can write so many treatise which i can refer to them to
>> write; but if the fear is the key, then , they shall remain silent. That is
>> the paradox of Karl Popper.
>> KR  IRS   30 6 23
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 08:20, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> I am going to mark the mails of Sri Rajaram and APS Mani to spam now on
>>> wards.* Let them understand they are IGNORED.* With your kind
>>> permission I am marking copies to all the groups in which I am a member.
>>> Gopalakrishnan
>>>
>>> On Friday, 30 June, 2023 at 07:53:44 pm IST, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sir,
>>> Just do not read the posts of Sri Rajaram and delete them as you do not
>>> like his posts or replies.Don't simply respond or even read.I have been
>>> doing it for many years with the posts of some members and they stopped as
>>> I have not been responding.My own posts have been misinterpreted or
>>> diverted to some other topic.I just ignore them.Afterall all members can
>>> read and understand on their own.
>>> Please keep in mind that in old age many mental deficiencies take hold
>>> and we cannot help.
>>> THe fact is,all of you are gifted,but unfortunately misunderstand each
>>> other.
>>> YM
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 6:11 PM gopala krishnan <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> I like to hear from you what is negative exchanges in detail if toy
>>> could write to me or in the forum.
>>> Gopalakrishnan
>>>
>>> On Friday, 30 June, 2023 at 10:57:31 am IST, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> May I very respectfully write,as one who has sincere admiration,that
>>> negative exchanges are simply deleted without reading.
>>> YM
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:32 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Never as long as you swines are embedded KR
>>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 18:47, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sirs,
>>>
>>> Great English of the former I R S officer who makes correction to my
>>> language.
>>>
>>> *I is ??? * If he meant It is- Yes, this response shows the *hurried
>>> inborn nature of the former IRS *Sri Rajaram Krishnamurthy.
>>>
>>> You have stated Foxes are foxes. Yes. They cannot be dogs. But who are
>>> the foxes? Write clearly if you have decency.
>>>
>>> When every member is trying for stopping abusing mails, you have started
>>> again calling some as FOX. When will you improve sir?
>>>
>>> First stop blaming others sir. All the groups will improve with
>>> fragrance.If can't put fragrance, kindly stop spreading bad odor.
>>>
>>> Gopalakrishnan
>>>
>>> On Friday, 30 June, 2023 at 07:02:48 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear folks
>>>
>>> Backed against the wall without means of escape when confronted with the
>>> truth, KR ex-IRS now desperately resorts to plain defamation, to cover his
>>> exposed rear.    He writes:-
>>>
>>> *"Utter falsity by both.I is Narayaanasamy who twisted it as if I
>>> accepted and and called my mother Vibachari and I have that email."*
>>>
>>> 1.  What is it that he "accepted"?  The undeniable fact that he emailed
>>> Sri Gopalakrishnan, saying, *"You are 72, he is 92;  what is my loss if
>>> my mother is a prostitute?"*
>>>
>>> 2. Yes, by all means please produce the alleged email in which I
>>> "twisted it" and called his mother a Vibachari.
>>>
>>> 3. Do it now, IMMEDIATELY, without further shilly-shallying.
>>>
>>> All is not yet lost.
>>>
>>> If KR ex-IRS alias Rajaram K alias other assumed disguises really,
>>> truly, honestly, genuinely, and sincerely wants to know who is my father,
>>> there is a perfectly fit, proper, and orthodox way to do so.
>>>
>>> Let him attend the next abdikam which I perform for my father, when he
>>> will hear my reciting the gothram and names of my father, my grandfather,
>>> and my great-grandfather, in their respective personae of vasu, rudra, and
>>> aadithya.
>>>
>>> *But there is an inviolable pre-condition.*
>>>
>>> He must first, after taking a head-to-toe bath in clean water, wear his
>>> triple yajnopaveetham evidencing his Braahmanic identity as having had
>>> upanayanam done, undergone vivaaham with a Braahmana virgin, and produced
>>> legitimate children.
>>>
>>> He must put on forehead marks with vibhoothi, chandanam, and kumkumam
>>> signifying he is indeed a fit and proper person to be invited.  He must
>>> wear soman-veshti-uttareeyam and rudraaksha-maalai as he is attending my
>>> father's solemn abdikam.
>>>
>>> He must perform his abhivaadanam before me, reciting the names of his
>>> thri-rishis, gothram, soothram, veda-saakhaa, naama as conferred on him
>>> during naama-karanam.  Then he must perform shaashtaanga namaskaaram to me
>>> with the words, "aham asmi bhoh!".
>>>
>>> I shall welcome him as a shavandi-kotthan, and give him rice,
>>> vegetables, and spices for him to cook a meal for himself outside my house,
>>> in my garden, and consume it alone there, thereafter cleaning up the place,
>>> and leaving, without looking back at my house.
>>>
>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:21 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Utter falsity by both.I is Narayaanasamy who twisted it as if I accepted
>>> and and called my mother Vibachari and I have that email and since then my
>>> repartee started; do not bring in Gopala as are you voice culture for him,
>>> who wrote, tongue in cheek first time about my IRS and English and still
>>> persist. And I retort back as I have a right to do so. The pandora's box
>>> was opened by both and unless they rectify their actions , it cannot as the
>>> liars are not to be trusted. For example, recently when there were no
>>> emails from N and G, I also did not write anything. An aged 97 if he writes
>>> nonsense , u people should address him only and I am not responsible for
>>> the language used; it is tit for tat; and if anyone of you say , you stop
>>> clapping ; all will set right; i do not trust as the foxes are only foxes.
>>> As a matter of fact N and G owe me an apology. Thank you KR IRS 29 6 23
>>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 06:01, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Sri N Sekar and Sri Ramaswamy
>>>
>>> My sincerest thanks to both of you for your concerns and responses.
>>>
>>> My researched essay was in response to Rajaram Krishnamurthy alias KR
>>> ex-IRS 28623's extremely provocative and intolerable, indeed incendiary,
>>> email to Sri Gopalakrishnan, to me *AND TO OTHERS* on the Internet as
>>> follows:-
>>>
>>> *"Who is the father of narayanasamy? who knows?;  he has some initials
>>> which he professes, as a MAMA does all the tiprofession. So nayunda
>>> maven is correct Have fun MAMA fuck off."*
>>>
>>> He has just sent to Sri Gopalakrishnan and to me in person a further
>>> email containing absolute filth, to which I do not propose to reply.
>>>
>>> I have similarly ignored several earlier filth emails sent to me
>>> personally by him.
>>>
>>> *But he seems to take my silence as licence for him to wax more and more
>>> eloquent with his filth.*
>>>
>>> Sri Gopalakrishnan has appealed to him several times to cease.  But
>>> he only responded with more corrosive, more offensive, more filthy emails.
>>>
>>> Can either of you, or both of you, kindly muzzle him effectively?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 2:14 PM Rama <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> With great pain I have chosen to respond and add to Sh Sekar's mail
>>> comments.
>>>
>>> Sh Sekar is right. Very filthy languages are being used dragging in
>>> between  the respected parents and ancestors. While respected elderly
>>> members contribute good anecdotes in our forum ,  the languages used in
>>> their fight are totally unacceptable and condemnable.
>>> I wonder how the "Moderator" and other members are tolerating such
>>> exchanges.
>>>
>>> Hope wiser sense prevails and please refrain from using derogatory
>>> remarks .
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Rama
>>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 at 10:21, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Sir,
>>>
>>> Namaskaram.
>>>
>>> *I refer to all the parties concerned in these exchanges*.
>>>
>>> I normally skip these exchanges but happened to read this one,
>>> unfortunately, to my utter dismay and anguish.
>>>
>>> *Please Sir, I request you with folded hands and after doing repeated
>>> Namaskarams.*
>>>
>>> Kindly refrain from calling someone's parents names and ridiculing
>>> them.
>>>
>>> We all have our parents Sir, and we should all feel terribly upset by
>>> any reference to any of them. They don't have to be necessarily our
>>> parents.
>>>
>>> Our Religion places the womenfolk on a high pedestal Sir, equating them
>>> to Goddess Mahalakshmi.
>>>
>>> *Parents, any parents, are worthy of being respected and revered. We are
>>> parents ourselves Sir. *
>>>
>>> Again my humble request Sir.  Kindly refrain from any reference to one's
>>> parents.  Our fight, if at all there is a need for it, should be on issues
>>> and not on personalities.
>>>
>>> I hope you won't take umbrage on me for writing this.
>>>
>>> *You are perhaps the senior most person in this group Sir, and should
>>> guide us on the right path, if any of us go astray. *
>>>
>>> *I hope you will pardon me for writing this.  I value elders'
>>> Blessings. *
>>>
>>> Namaskarams again.
>>>
>>> N Sekar
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 06:55:57 AM GMT+4, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear folks
>>>
>>> An exciting and interest-fraught vista of doubt, uncertainty and
>>> speculation is opened by our hero KR ex-IRS 29623 openly and publicly
>>> asking us who his own father is.
>>>
>>> Very much like his widely-admired, frequently-quoted, much-published
>>> predecessor Sathyakaama Jabaali whose mother told him that she did not know
>>> his gothram because when young she had served so many guests and visitors
>>> to her house, and hence did not know who her son's father was.
>>>
>>> Our hero identifies himself regularly by his two initials "KR".  These
>>> initials can stand for the German words Kakerlake Rauber, meaning "thieving
>>> cockroach".
>>>
>>> The same initials can also stand for Krishnamurthy Raajaaraam.
>>>
>>> Once our hero signed off as "Rajaram K".
>>>
>>> But which is the father, and which is the son?
>>>
>>> Christian practice is to put the personal name first, followed by the
>>> father's name as surname.  That would mean that Krishnamurthy is the
>>> father, and Raajaaraam the son.  But our practice is to put the father's
>>> name in front.   However, by regularly identifying himself as "KR", our
>>> hero seems to assure us that Raajaaraam is the father, and Krishnamurthy
>>> the son.
>>>
>>> Who sleeps with the mother?
>>>
>>> *Could it well be that the Oedipus cult prevails in his family?*
>>>
>>> According to legend, Greek King Oedipus married and slept with his
>>> mother Jocasta and had four children by her.
>>>
>>> Same with our hero "KR" alias "Rajaram K"?  He slept with his mother the
>>> call-girl as he had confessed?  And therefore he does not know who his
>>> father was?
>>>
>>> Was there rampant incest in KR's family?  Did he sleep also with his
>>> sisters, daughters, daughters-in-law?
>>>
>>> Again according to Greek legend, Gaia (Earth) had 12 children with her
>>> son Uranus (Sky): - six sons and six daughters.  The sons "consorted" (i.e.
>>> mated) with the sisters, and produced children of their own.
>>>
>>> Zeus fathered a daughter with his older sister Demeter.  The sea-god
>>> Phorcys fathered many offspring by his sister
>>> Ceto.  Mortal Myrrha committed tincest with her father Theias, and bore
>>> Adonis.
>>>
>>> In Egyptian mythology, Horus, the grandson of Geb, had his own mother
>>> Isis become his imperial consort.  Shu and Tefnut were brother and sister,
>>> and they produced offspring Geb and Nut.
>>>
>>> In the Bible, the Holy Book of Jews, Muslims and Christians, Sarah
>>> marries her half-brother Abraham (see Genesis); and Lot's two daughters
>>> seduce their intoxicated father and give birth to sons Moab and Ammon, each
>>> of whom found their own dynasties (see Genesis).
>>>
>>> Jacob's first-born son Reuben had sex with his father's concubine
>>> Bilhah.  Judah, Jacob's fourth son, had sex with his daughter-in-law Tamar.
>>>
>>> According to the Quran, Allah/God commanded Prophet Muhammad to marry
>>> his own daughter-in-law Zaynab, wife of his son, which Muhammad did.
>>>
>>> *So, there are ample past precedents for our hero to doubt his ancestry
>>> and to ask us to find out who is his own father.   And also for us to ask,
>>> in turn, whether he slept with his mother a la Oedipus, his daughters,
>>> daughters-in-law, and sisters.*
>>>
>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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