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On Wed, 6 Sept 2023 at 10:30, Madras Sivaraman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thank you. The vedas contain such gems.
>
> On Wed, 6 Sept 2023 at 10:22, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> A right note struck as the shanti mantra, "Aano bhadra (hear) krathavo
>> (action) yanthu  VISWATHA (UNIVERSE) word of wisdom from Rig veda Mandala 1
>> and chap 89 verse 1 out of 10 in that chap opens up the sentiments of today
>> THE HUMAN WELFARE AND THE RIGHTS AS WELL AS THE BHARATHA DESAM.
>>
>> आ । नः । भद्राः । क्रतवः । यन्तु । विश्वतः । अदब्धासः । अपरिइतासः ।
>> उत्भिदः । देवाः । नः । यथा । सदम् । इत् । वृधे । असन् । अप्रआयुवः ।
>> रक्षितारः । दिवेदिवे ॥
>>
>> ā | naḥ | bhadrāḥ | kratavaḥ | yantu | viśvataḥ | adabdhāsaḥ |
>> apari-itāsaḥ | ut-bhidaḥ | devāḥ | naḥ | yathā | sadam | it | vṛdhe | asan
>> | apra-āyuvaḥ | rakṣitāraḥ | dive—dive
>>
>> “May auspicious works, unmolested, unimpeded, and subversive (of foes),
>> come to us from every quarter; may the gods, turning not away from us, but
>> granting us protection day by day, be ever with us for our advancement.”
>>
>> आ नो भद्राः क्रतवो यन्तु विश्वतोऽदब्धासो अपरीतास उद्भिदः ।
>>
>> देवा नो यथा सदमिद्वृधे असन्नप्रायुवो रक्षितारो दिवेदिवे ॥
>>
>> A no bhadrah kratavo yantu visvato.adabdhaso aparitasa udbhidah, deva no
>> yatha sadamid vrdhe asannaprayuvo raksitaro dive-dive
>>
>> Meaning of the mantra.
>>
>> 1.* Let noble thoughts come to us from every side*.{ and these thoughts
>> found in Tamil sanga Ilakkiyam and Niruktam and Mahabharatha shanti parvam
>> etc spread over righteously today the the 6th sept 2023 Krishna Jayanthi
>> day aftert he teachers' day. }
>>
>> 2. May auspicious benevolent doers of good deeds, inviolable or
>> un-molested from all quarters, un-forsakable or worthy of association
>> ,annihilators of all miseries, learned men endowed with divine virtues ever
>> come to our homes to give us knowledge. May they be our protectors every
>> day for our advancement, never failing their duties, being alert or devoid
>> of laziness.
>>
>> 3. As a well-built good house suitable in all seasons gives all
>> happiness, in the same manner, men should know that knowledge, learned
>> persons and yajnas consiting of art and crafts cause happiness to- all.
>>
>> “May the benevolent favour of the gods (be ours); may the bounty of the
>> gods, ever approving of the upright, light upon us; may we obtain the
>> friendship of the gods, and may the gods extend our days to longevity.”
>>
>> *The Mantra you quoted in the question is from Rig-Veda Samhita 1.89.1 -
>> Rishi of this Sukta is Gautama and the deity is Vishvadevas. This Mantra is
>> also found in Vajaseniya Samhita 25.14.* This sukta is called Shantipath
>> sukta or Swastimantra. where Swasti means a blessing seeking the well-being
>> of people. These mantras are used to invite peace and Well-being or drive
>> away negative and destructive forces.
>>
>> आ नो भद्राः क्रतवो यन्तु विश्वत्व् अदब्धासो अपरीतास उद्भिदः |
>>
>> देवा नो यथा सदमिद्वृधे असन्न-प्रायुवो रक्षितारो दिवे-दिवे || 1.89.1 ||
>>
>> ā no bhadrāḥ kratavo kṣyantu viśvato adabdhāso aparītāsa udbhidaḥ |
>>
>> devā no yathā sadamid vṛdhe asanaprāyuvo rakṣitāro dive-dive || 1 ||
>>
>> May auspicious works, unmolested, unimpeded, and subversive (of foes),
>> come to us from every quarter. May the Gods, turning not away from us, but
>> granting us protection day by day, be ever with us , for our advancement. -
>> H.H. Wilson.
>>
>> May noble thoughts come to us from every side, unchanged, unhindered,
>> undefeated in every way; May the gods always be with us for our gain and
>> our protectors caring for us, ceaseless, every day. - Alternate Translation
>>
>> According to scholars, this mantra shows the willingness of Vedic people
>> and culture to receive noble and worthy ideas/thoughts/works from all the
>> quarters i.e. from all the parts of the universe. That means including all
>> the lokas also like dyu Loka etc. which are beyond earth. But it is said
>> that let us not accept those noble works/thoughts/works under pressure from
>> something. That means we should accept those willing fully. And let the men
>> proceed and achieve their goal, development with those.
>>
>> This mantra is important in sociological context as explained by the
>> author By M. Ram Murty in his book Indian Philosophy: An Introduction. He
>> is explaining the context as follows
>>
>> Another celebrated hymn occurs in the first book: Ano Bhadra Kratavo
>> yantu visvatah (Let noble thoughts come from all directions) (Rig Veda
>> 1.89.1 ). This verse emphasises the complementarity of human knowledge. It
>> highlights the need to learn from all the directions because knowledge is
>> not the monopoly of any single individual or nation or race . The pursuit
>> and expansion of knowledge in the widest sense of the word is a collective
>> human endeavour.
>>
>> So in summary this mantra crosses all the boundaries of religion and
>> appreciates and accepts good /auspicious/ and dharmik ideas and works,
>> which are beneficial for society from other parts of the world/universe.
>> This is also a symbolism of tolerant religion, which do not hate, ban
>> thoughts, thought processes, rituals, customs, and beliefs from other
>> cultures as well. Because Vedic Dharma is Sanatana and the core teaching of
>> Vedic religion is Sarvam Khalvidam Brahma. So respecting all the good works
>> from all directions i.e. religions present in other parts from all the
>> directions.
>>
>> Xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> AND SUBRAMANYA BHARATHO REVERBERATED IN 1939:
>>
>> வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம்
>>
>> அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம்
>>
>> வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம்
>>
>> அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம்
>>
>> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>>
>> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>>
>> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>> வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம்
>>
>> அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம்
>>
>>
>>
>> முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே
>>
>> முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே
>>
>> மொய்த்து வணிகர் பல நாட்டினர் வந்தே
>>
>> முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே
>>
>> மொய்த்து வணிகர் பல நாட்டினர் வந்தே
>>
>> நாட்டி நமக்கினிய பொருள் கொணர்ந்தே
>>
>> நாட்டி நமக்கினிய பொருள் கொணர்ந்தே
>>
>> நம்மருள் வேண்டுவதும் மேர்கரையிலே
>>
>> முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே
>>
>>
>>
>> வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம்
>>
>> அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம்
>>
>> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>>
>> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>>
>> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>>
>>
>> ஆயுதம் செய்வோம் நல்ல காகிதம் செய்வோம்
>>
>> ஆயுதம் செய்வோம் நல்ல காகிதம் செய்வோம்
>>
>> ஆலைகள் வைப்போம் கல்வி சாலைகள் வைப்போம்
>>
>> ஆலைகள் வைப்போம் கல்வி சாலைகள் வைப்போம்
>>
>> ஓயுதல் செய்யோம் தலை சாயுதல் செய்யோம்
>>
>> ஓயுதல் செய்யோம் தலை சாயுதல் செய்யோம்
>>
>> உண்மைகள் சொல்வோம் பல வண்மைகள் செய்வோம்
>>
>> உண்மைகள் சொல்வோம் பல வண்மைகள் செய்வோம்
>>
>>
>>
>> வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம்
>>
>> அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம்
>>
>> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>>
>> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>>
>> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>> நாங்கள் தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>> நாங்கள் தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>>
>> Vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom
>>
>> aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom
>>
>> vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom
>>
>> aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom
>>
>> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>>
>> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>>
>> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>> vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom
>>
>> aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom
>>
>>
>>
>> Muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile
>>
>> muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile
>>
>> mŏyttu vaṇigar pala nāṭṭiṉar vande
>>
>> muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile
>>
>> mŏyttu vaṇigar pala nāṭṭiṉar vande
>>
>> nāṭṭi namakkiṉiya pŏruḽ kŏṇarnde
>>
>> nāṭṭi namakkiṉiya pŏruḽ kŏṇarnde
>>
>> nammaruḽ veṇḍuvadum mergaraiyile
>>
>> muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile
>>
>>
>>
>> Vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom
>>
>> aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom
>>
>> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>>
>> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>>
>> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>>
>>
>> Āyudam sĕyvom nalla kāgidam sĕyvom
>>
>> āyudam sĕyvom nalla kāgidam sĕyvom
>>
>> ālaigaḽ vaippom kalvi sālaigaḽ vaippom
>>
>> ālaigaḽ vaippom kalvi sālaigaḽ vaippom
>>
>> oyudal sĕyyom talai sāyudal sĕyyom
>>
>> oyudal sĕyyom talai sāyudal sĕyyom
>>
>> uṇmaigaḽ sŏlvom pala vaṇmaigaḽ sĕyvom
>>
>> uṇmaigaḽ sŏlvom pala vaṇmaigaḽ sĕyvom
>>
>>
>>
>> Vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom
>>
>> aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom
>>
>> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>>
>> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>>
>> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>> nāṅgaḽ toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>> nāṅgaḽ toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>>
>> Subramanya Bharathi evokes the rights of the Bhartatham and its culture,
>> seeking knowledge and wealth from all over in 1939 before even getting the
>> freedom for India from the British; and today we are really free to be
>> called *the  Bharatiyan.*
>> He says lets walk on the Himalayas; lets send ships all over the western
>> seas to get the wealth from there to Bharatha Desam.  Let us make the
>> educational institutions as a temple of worship; lets boast as BHARTHA
>> DESAM.
>>
>> Let us get the trade expand all over the west and bring those treasures
>> into the Bharatha desam. We obtain Pearls from the sea from the south and
>> trade over the west. Let us make war tools; make paper industry; let us
>> speak the truth boldly; let us start as many industries as possible and
>> bring in the educational institutions; and never we shall rest till all
>> these are achieved. Let us hail Bharatha Desam.
>>
>> And Rig vedam said it 10000 years backas:
>>
>> आ । नः । भद्राः । क्रतवः । यन्तु । विश्वतः । अदब्धासः । अपरिइतासः ।
>> उत्भिदः । देवाः । नः । यथा । सदम् । इत् । वृधे । असन् । अप्रआयुवः ।
>> रक्षितारः । दिवेदिवे ॥
>>
>> ā | naḥ | bhadrāḥ | kratavaḥ | yantu | viśvataḥ | adabdhāsaḥ |
>> apari-itāsaḥ | ut-bhidaḥ | devāḥ | naḥ | yathā | sadam | it | vṛdhe | asan
>> | apra-āyuvaḥ | rakṣitāraḥ | dive—dive
>>
>> “May auspicious works, unmolested, unimpeded, and subversive (of foes),
>> come to us from every quarter; may the gods, turning not away from us, but
>> granting us protection day by day, be ever with us for our advancement.”
>>
>> K Rajartam  IRS  6 9 23
>>
>> On Wed, 6 Sept 2023 at 08:05, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> *aano bhadraaha krathanoyanthu vishvatho adabdhaaso apareethaasa
>>> udbhidaha  l*
>>> *devaano yathaa sadamidvyadhe asannapraayuve rakshithaaro dive dive   l*
>>> *devaanaam bhadraa sumabhiryajooyathaam devaanaarabhinoni varthathaam  l*
>>> *devaanaam sakhyamupaabhimaa vayam devaana aayuhupra thiranthu jeevase
>>> l*
>>> *thaan poorvayaa nivibhaahoomahe vayam bhagam mithramadithim
>>> bhakshamasridham  l*
>>> *aryamanam varunam somamashvinaa sarasvathee naha subhagaa mayaskarathi
>>> ll*
>>> (RV Cap VI sooktham 89 vargam 15)
>>>
>>> meaning  --
>>>
>>> Let the (power of the) deathless eternal and super-powerful
>>> fire-sacrifices which chase away far
>>> (our) enemies approach from all directions and reach us.  Let the
>>> celestials who desire the welfare
>>> of all beings come and join us.  Let their blessings come and pour like
>>> rain on us.  Through their
>>> blessings let us obtain their friendship and their nearness, and long
>>> life for us.
>>>
>>> We are chanting the sacred verses that call the celestials to come and
>>> which confer permanent
>>> existence on them.  We are inviting bagan, mithran, adithi,
>>> hiranyagarbha, the community of marut
>>> winds, adithya, varuna, soma, and the ashvin twins.
>>>
>>> Let goddess sarasvathi who pours the rain of well-being on everyone
>>> present us with wealth.
>>>
>>> My comments.  I have heard and read comments from eminent scholars
>>> saying that this veda-vaakyam only asks that
>>> noble thoughts should come to us from all directions.
>>>
>>> Far from contradicting them, I should perhaps humbly point out that the
>>> r'g vedam invites all named celestials, plus the
>>> Goddess Sarasvathi, to attend on those dutifully performing the
>>> fire-sacrifice and bless them with showers of blessings
>>> like plentiful rain which sustains the growth of foodgrains and confers
>>> other boons such as filling ponds and lakes with
>>> fresh water, enables sacred rivers ro flow, and the oceans to remain to
>>> enrich the Earth on which we live.
>>>
>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>
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