Why sometimes in one to one? sometimes between N yourself and L; why
sometimes in Kerala group; and sometimes in all?  Because only the crook
thinks differently, conveniently as needed; as one wishes to bend the
rules. 6th and 7th sept the territory was quiet as there was no email from
those 2 as well as you; and I never wrote anything; when you three start
the game ball I reply back. But what the devilish writing you do?; as if I
write aND SO HE RESPONDS?. fUNNY VILLAINY.  I make fun of you three people
in reply. And camel eye and cataract of body mind aberrations. Keep rolling
and getting hit. I do not hesitate . And another Joker Laxmi narayan
sharma, who called him as a soldier, now appears as his real A DHADHA; A
ROWDY; A SCOUNDREL ;and he thinks only he can hit; save your face sarama;
don't lose it and become face-off. Your avivekam is well brought out in
your write up as your anna and the thambi. Go ahead.  KR IRS 9923

On Sat, 9 Sept 2023 at 12:12, 'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Sir,
>
> Have I abused you at any time? Have I used Malayalam in any context other
> than in my posting in small words?
>
> Before addressing you, I have written to Mr Narayanaswamy.
>
> I am not having camel eye. My cataract in eyes got operated before years.
> I don't use spectacles unless the letters are very small.
>
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Saturday, 9 September, 2023 at 11:03:49 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Gopalakrishnan, I am sorry your blindness needs check up; why are you
> again showing your aversion to one language while you write in malayalam?
> Is it any deva bhasha when abused? Also have you read the who;e where that
> stupid writes nonsense and you are incapable of demanding from him why? But
> unashamedly write your camel eyed versions over tamil So you too become
> tamil Punnakku Thank you KR IRS  9923
>
> On Sat, 9 Sept 2023 at 06:47, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Respected  Mr Rajaram,
>
> Please stop the Tamil abusing. By your abusing  again and again you
> provoke others  and shows yourself your culture is low and you are
> degrading your former ITS position which you hold with prestige. You may
> appreciate my thinking - I hope.
>
> The moment you stop your abusing, others will also stop abusing you.
>
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Friday, 8 September, 2023 at 09:49:50 pm IST, Laxminarayan Sarma <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Is that the limit of your *response? Are you incapable of talking sense?*
>
> You remind me of a black langur whose only response a snarl, a few
> hysterical shrieks and frothing at the mouth
>
> *Come man, learn to articulate like a human, not like a primate. But i
> doubt if you're at all capablble of it *
>
> I *still wonder how you entered the IRS. And now, judging by your
> incoherent gibberish of a response, it's proved that your lying to the
> teeth *
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Sep, 2023, 8:03 pm Rajaram Krishnamurthy, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Punnakku you should have learnt some basic and shall not pretend like your
> anna Poda porukki
>
> On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 18:52, Laxminarayan Sarma <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Aping Artiste iArsE
>
> Where did you copy this from
>
> May *auspicious works, unmolested, unimpeded, and subversive (of foes),
> come to us from every quarter; may the gods, turning not away from us, but
> granting us protection day by day, be ever with us for our advancement.”*
>
> *K Rajartam  IRS  6 9 23 *
>
>
> At least have the basic decency and honesty to quote the source ibstead of
> pretending to have authored it. It doesn't need a genius, even a quasi
> literate like you is familiar with  and quite usef to the fact that you're
> not even capable of stringing together four coherent words to form an
> intelligent sentence to express even the simplest of ideas.
>
> Have the humility to admit your own imbecility and incapacity to engage in
> intelligent discussion , conversation with even  an average person like
> me,  leave alone the likes of the learned, experienced, wise and near
> centenarian  Shri Narayanaswamy Anna. Apologise to him, and learn from him
> the basics of the English Language, etiquettes, culture and Humility
>
> It's never too late to mend your ways. *
>
> *And please, don't write in English. It's DEFINITELY your cup of tea.
> Tamil or Malayalam will be okay *
>
>
>
>
>
> *Show quoted text*
>
> On Thu, 7 Sep, 2023, 12:21 pm Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Dear folks
>
> Someone should tell dalit-by-choice *K Rajartam  ex-IRS  6 9 23 *alias
> NAYUNDA MAVEN alias MOTOB (Master of Tamil obscenities and blasphemies)
> that his irrelevant, irreverent, ill-conceived, ignorant, subversive and
> parasitic rants are not welcome in this august forum of virtuous vipras.
>
> He should keep his polluting syphilitic paws off the iyer123 website.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 12:52 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> A right note struck as the shanti mantra, "Aano bhadra (hear) krathavo
> (action) yanthu  VISWATHA (UNIVERSE) word of wisdom from Rig veda Mandala 1
> and chap 89 verse 1 out of 10 in that chap opens up the sentiments of today
> THE HUMAN WELFARE AND THE RIGHTS AS WELL AS THE BHARATHA DESAM.
>
> आ । नः । भद्राः । क्रतवः । यन्तु । विश्वतः । अदब्धासः । अपरिइतासः ।
> उत्भिदः । देवाः । नः । यथा । सदम् । इत् । वृधे । असन् । अप्रआयुवः ।
> रक्षितारः । दिवेदिवे ॥
>
> ā | naḥ | bhadrāḥ | kratavaḥ | yantu | viśvataḥ | adabdhāsaḥ |
> apari-itāsaḥ | ut-bhidaḥ | devāḥ | naḥ | yathā | sadam | it | vṛdhe | asan
> | apra-āyuvaḥ | rakṣitāraḥ | dive—dive
>
> “May auspicious works, unmolested, unimpeded, and subversive (of foes),
> come to us from every quarter; may the gods, turning not away from us, but
> granting us protection day by day, be ever with us for our advancement.”
>
> आ नो भद्राः क्रतवो यन्तु विश्वतोऽदब्धासो अपरीतास उद्भिदः ।
>
> देवा नो यथा सदमिद्वृधे असन्नप्रायुवो रक्षितारो दिवेदिवे ॥
>
> A no bhadrah kratavo yantu visvato.adabdhaso aparitasa udbhidah, deva no
> yatha sadamid vrdhe asannaprayuvo raksitaro dive-dive
>
> Meaning of the mantra.
>
> 1.* Let noble thoughts come to us from every side*.{ and these thoughts
> found in Tamil sanga Ilakkiyam and Niruktam and Mahabharatha shanti parvam
> etc spread over righteously today the the 6th sept 2023 Krishna Jayanthi
> day aftert he teachers' day. }
>
> 2. May auspicious benevolent doers of good deeds, inviolable or
> un-molested from all quarters, un-forsakable or worthy of association
> ,annihilators of all miseries, learned men endowed with divine virtues ever
> come to our homes to give us knowledge. May they be our protectors every
> day for our advancement, never failing their duties, being alert or devoid
> of laziness.
>
> 3. As a well-built good house suitable in all seasons gives all happiness,
> in the same manner, men should know that knowledge, learned persons and
> yajnas consiting of art and crafts cause happiness to- all.
>
> “May the benevolent favour of the gods (be ours); may the bounty of the
> gods, ever approving of the upright, light upon us; may we obtain the
> friendship of the gods, and may the gods extend our days to longevity.”
>
> *The Mantra you quoted in the question is from Rig-Veda Samhita 1.89.1 -
> Rishi of this Sukta is Gautama and the deity is Vishvadevas. This Mantra is
> also found in Vajaseniya Samhita 25.14.* This sukta is called Shantipath
> sukta or Swastimantra. where Swasti means a blessing seeking the well-being
> of people. These mantras are used to invite peace and Well-being or drive
> away negative and destructive forces.
>
> आ नो भद्राः क्रतवो यन्तु विश्वत्व् अदब्धासो अपरीतास उद्भिदः |
>
> देवा नो यथा सदमिद्वृधे असन्न-प्रायुवो रक्षितारो दिवे-दिवे || 1.89.1 ||
>
> ā no bhadrāḥ kratavo kṣyantu viśvato adabdhāso aparītāsa udbhidaḥ |
>
> devā no yathā sadamid vṛdhe asanaprāyuvo rakṣitāro dive-dive || 1 ||
>
> May auspicious works, unmolested, unimpeded, and subversive (of foes),
> come to us from every quarter. May the Gods, turning not away from us, but
> granting us protection day by day, be ever with us , for our advancement. -
> H.H. Wilson.
>
> May noble thoughts come to us from every side, unchanged, unhindered,
> undefeated in every way; May the gods always be with us for our gain and
> our protectors caring for us, ceaseless, every day. - Alternate Translation
>
> According to scholars, this mantra shows the willingness of Vedic people
> and culture to receive noble and worthy ideas/thoughts/works from all the
> quarters i.e. from all the parts of the universe. That means including all
> the lokas also like dyu Loka etc. which are beyond earth. But it is said
> that let us not accept those noble works/thoughts/works under pressure from
> something. That means we should accept those willing fully. And let the men
> proceed and achieve their goal, development with those.
>
> This mantra is important in sociological context as explained by the
> author By M. Ram Murty in his book Indian Philosophy: An Introduction. He
> is explaining the context as follows
>
> Another celebrated hymn occurs in the first book: Ano Bhadra Kratavo yantu
> visvatah (Let noble thoughts come from all directions) (Rig Veda 1.89.1 ).
> This verse emphasises the complementarity of human knowledge. It highlights
> the need to learn from all the directions because knowledge is not the
> monopoly of any single individual or nation or race . The pursuit and
> expansion of knowledge in the widest sense of the word is a collective
> human endeavour.
>
> So in summary this mantra crosses all the boundaries of religion and
> appreciates and accepts good /auspicious/ and dharmik ideas and works,
> which are beneficial for society from other parts of the world/universe.
> This is also a symbolism of tolerant religion, which do not hate, ban
> thoughts, thought processes, rituals, customs, and beliefs from other
> cultures as well. Because Vedic Dharma is Sanatana and the core teaching of
> Vedic religion is Sarvam Khalvidam Brahma. So respecting all the good works
> from all directions i.e. religions present in other parts from all the
> directions.
>
> Xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> AND SUBRAMANYA BHARATHO REVERBERATED IN 1939:
>
> வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம்
>
> அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம்
>
> வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம்
>
> அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம்
>
> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>
> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>
> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
> வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம்
>
> அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம்
>
>
>
> முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே
>
> முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே
>
> மொய்த்து வணிகர் பல நாட்டினர் வந்தே
>
> முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே
>
> மொய்த்து வணிகர் பல நாட்டினர் வந்தே
>
> நாட்டி நமக்கினிய பொருள் கொணர்ந்தே
>
> நாட்டி நமக்கினிய பொருள் கொணர்ந்தே
>
> நம்மருள் வேண்டுவதும் மேர்கரையிலே
>
> முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே
>
>
>
> வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம்
>
> அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம்
>
> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>
> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>
> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
>
>
> ஆயுதம் செய்வோம் நல்ல காகிதம் செய்வோம்
>
> ஆயுதம் செய்வோம் நல்ல காகிதம் செய்வோம்
>
> ஆலைகள் வைப்போம் கல்வி சாலைகள் வைப்போம்
>
> ஆலைகள் வைப்போம் கல்வி சாலைகள் வைப்போம்
>
> ஓயுதல் செய்யோம் தலை சாயுதல் செய்யோம்
>
> ஓயுதல் செய்யோம் தலை சாயுதல் செய்யோம்
>
> உண்மைகள் சொல்வோம் பல வண்மைகள் செய்வோம்
>
> உண்மைகள் சொல்வோம் பல வண்மைகள் செய்வோம்
>
>
>
> வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம்
>
> அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம்
>
> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>
> பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம்
>
> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
> எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
> நாங்கள் தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
> நாங்கள் தோள் கொட்டுவோம்
>
> Vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom
>
> aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom
>
> vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom
>
> aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom
>
> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>
> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>
> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
> vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom
>
> aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom
>
>
>
> Muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile
>
> muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile
>
> mŏyttu vaṇigar pala nāṭṭiṉar vande
>
> muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile
>
> mŏyttu vaṇigar pala nāṭṭiṉar vande
>
> nāṭṭi namakkiṉiya pŏruḽ kŏṇarnde
>
> nāṭṭi namakkiṉiya pŏruḽ kŏṇarnde
>
> nammaruḽ veṇḍuvadum mergaraiyile
>
> muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile
>
>
>
> Vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom
>
> aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom
>
> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>
> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>
> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
>
>
> Āyudam sĕyvom nalla kāgidam sĕyvom
>
> āyudam sĕyvom nalla kāgidam sĕyvom
>
> ālaigaḽ vaippom kalvi sālaigaḽ vaippom
>
> ālaigaḽ vaippom kalvi sālaigaḽ vaippom
>
> oyudal sĕyyom talai sāyudal sĕyyom
>
> oyudal sĕyyom talai sāyudal sĕyyom
>
> uṇmaigaḽ sŏlvom pala vaṇmaigaḽ sĕyvom
>
> uṇmaigaḽ sŏlvom pala vaṇmaigaḽ sĕyvom
>
>
>
> Vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom
>
> aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom
>
> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>
> paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom
>
> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
> ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
> nāṅgaḽ toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
> nāṅgaḽ toḽ kŏṭṭuvom
>
> Subramanya Bharathi evokes the rights of the Bhartatham and its culture,
> seeking knowledge and wealth from all over in 1939 before even getting the
> freedom for India from the British; and today we are really free to be
> called *the  Bharatiyan.*
> He says lets walk on the Himalayas; lets send ships all over the western
> seas to get the wealth from there to Bharatha Desam.  Let us make the
> educational institutions as a temple of worship; lets boast as BHARTHA
> DESAM.
>
> Let us get the trade expand all over the west and bring those treasures
> into the Bharatha desam. We obtain Pearls from the sea from the south and
> trade over the west. Let us make war tools; make paper industry; let us
> speak the truth boldly; let us start as many industries as possible and
> bring in the educational institutions; and never we shall rest till all
> these are achieved. Let us hail Bharatha Desam.
>
> And Rig vedam said it 10000 years backas:
>
> आ । नः । भद्राः । क्रतवः । यन्तु । विश्वतः । अदब्धासः । अपरिइतासः ।
> उत्भिदः । देवाः । नः । यथा । सदम् । इत् । वृधे । असन् । अप्रआयुवः ।
> रक्षितारः । दिवेदिवे ॥
>
> ā | naḥ | bhadrāḥ | kratavaḥ | yantu | viśvataḥ | adabdhāsaḥ |
> apari-itāsaḥ | ut-bhidaḥ | devāḥ | naḥ | yathā | sadam | it | vṛdhe | asan
> | apra-āyuvaḥ | rakṣitāraḥ | dive—dive
>
> “May auspicious works, unmolested, unimpeded, and subversive (of foes),
> come to us from every quarter; may the gods, turning not away from us, but
> granting us protection day by day, be ever with us for our advancement.”
>
> K Rajartam  IRS  6 9 23
>
> On Wed, 6 Sept 2023 at 08:05, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> *aano bhadraaha krathanoyanthu vishvatho adabdhaaso apareethaasa
> udbhidaha  l*
> *devaano yathaa sadamidvyadhe asannapraayuve rakshithaaro dive dive   l*
> *devaanaam bhadraa sumabhiryajooyathaam devaanaarabhinoni varthathaam  l*
> *devaanaam sakhyamupaabhimaa vayam devaana aayuhupra thiranthu jeevase  l*
> *thaan poorvayaa nivibhaahoomahe vayam bhagam mithramadithim
> bhakshamasridham  l*
> *aryamanam varunam somamashvinaa sarasvathee naha subhagaa mayaskarathi
> ll*
> (RV Cap VI sooktham 89 vargam 15)
>
> meaning  --
>
> Let the (power of the) deathless eternal and super-powerful
> fire-sacrifices which chase away far
> (our) enemies approach from all directions and reach us.  Let the
> celestials who desire the welfare
> of all beings come and join us.  Let their blessings come and pour like
> rain on us.  Through their
> blessings let us obtain their friendship and their nearness, and long life
> for us.
>
> We are chanting the sacred verses that call the celestials to come and
> which confer permanent
> existence on them.  We are inviting bagan, mithran, adithi, hiranyagarbha,
> the community of marut
> winds, adithya, varuna, soma, and the ashvin twins.
>
> Let goddess sarasvathi who pours the rain of well-being on everyone
> present us with wealth.
>
> My comments.  I have heard and read comments from eminent scholars saying
> that this veda-vaakyam only asks that
> noble thoughts should come to us from all directions.
>
> Far from contradicting them, I should perhaps humbly point out that the
> r'g vedam invites all named celestials, plus the
> Goddess Sarasvathi, to attend on those dutifully performing the
> fire-sacrifice and bless them with showers of blessings
> like plentiful rain which sustains the growth of foodgrains and confers
> other boons such as filling ponds and lakes with
> fresh water, enables sacred rivers ro flow, and the oceans to remain to
> enrich the Earth on which we live.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
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