Dear Gopalakrishnan, I am sorry your blindness needs check up; why are you again showing your aversion to one language while you write in malayalam? Is it any deva bhasha when abused? Also have you read the who;e where that stupid writes nonsense and you are incapable of demanding from him why? But unashamedly write your camel eyed versions over tamil So you too become tamil Punnakku Thank you KR IRS 9923
On Sat, 9 Sept 2023 at 06:47, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > Respected Mr Rajaram, > > Please stop the Tamil abusing. By your abusing again and again you > provoke others and shows yourself your culture is low and you are > degrading your former ITS position which you hold with prestige. You may > appreciate my thinking - I hope. > > The moment you stop your abusing, others will also stop abusing you. > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Friday, 8 September, 2023 at 09:49:50 pm IST, Laxminarayan Sarma < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Is that the limit of your *response? Are you incapable of talking sense?* > > You remind me of a black langur whose only response a snarl, a few > hysterical shrieks and frothing at the mouth > > *Come man, learn to articulate like a human, not like a primate. But i > doubt if you're at all capablble of it * > > I *still wonder how you entered the IRS. And now, judging by your > incoherent gibberish of a response, it's proved that your lying to the > teeth * > > > On Fri, 8 Sep, 2023, 8:03 pm Rajaram Krishnamurthy, <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Punnakku you should have learnt some basic and shall not pretend like your > anna Poda porukki > > On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 18:52, Laxminarayan Sarma < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Aping Artiste iArsE > > Where did you copy this from > > May *auspicious works, unmolested, unimpeded, and subversive (of foes), > come to us from every quarter; may the gods, turning not away from us, but > granting us protection day by day, be ever with us for our advancement.”* > > *K Rajartam IRS 6 9 23 * > > > At least have the basic decency and honesty to quote the source ibstead of > pretending to have authored it. It doesn't need a genius, even a quasi > literate like you is familiar with and quite usef to the fact that you're > not even capable of stringing together four coherent words to form an > intelligent sentence to express even the simplest of ideas. > > Have the humility to admit your own imbecility and incapacity to engage in > intelligent discussion , conversation with even an average person like > me, leave alone the likes of the learned, experienced, wise and near > centenarian Shri Narayanaswamy Anna. Apologise to him, and learn from him > the basics of the English Language, etiquettes, culture and Humility > > It's never too late to mend your ways. * > > *And please, don't write in English. It's DEFINITELY your cup of tea. > Tamil or Malayalam will be okay * > > > > > > *Show quoted text* > > On Thu, 7 Sep, 2023, 12:21 pm Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dear folks > > Someone should tell dalit-by-choice *K Rajartam ex-IRS 6 9 23 *alias > NAYUNDA MAVEN alias MOTOB (Master of Tamil obscenities and blasphemies) > that his irrelevant, irreverent, ill-conceived, ignorant, subversive and > parasitic rants are not welcome in this august forum of virtuous vipras. > > He should keep his polluting syphilitic paws off the iyer123 website. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 12:52 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > A right note struck as the shanti mantra, "Aano bhadra (hear) krathavo > (action) yanthu VISWATHA (UNIVERSE) word of wisdom from Rig veda Mandala 1 > and chap 89 verse 1 out of 10 in that chap opens up the sentiments of today > THE HUMAN WELFARE AND THE RIGHTS AS WELL AS THE BHARATHA DESAM. > > आ । नः । भद्राः । क्रतवः । यन्तु । विश्वतः । अदब्धासः । अपरिइतासः । > उत्भिदः । देवाः । नः । यथा । सदम् । इत् । वृधे । असन् । अप्रआयुवः । > रक्षितारः । दिवेदिवे ॥ > > ā | naḥ | bhadrāḥ | kratavaḥ | yantu | viśvataḥ | adabdhāsaḥ | > apari-itāsaḥ | ut-bhidaḥ | devāḥ | naḥ | yathā | sadam | it | vṛdhe | asan > | apra-āyuvaḥ | rakṣitāraḥ | dive—dive > > “May auspicious works, unmolested, unimpeded, and subversive (of foes), > come to us from every quarter; may the gods, turning not away from us, but > granting us protection day by day, be ever with us for our advancement.” > > आ नो भद्राः क्रतवो यन्तु विश्वतोऽदब्धासो अपरीतास उद्भिदः । > > देवा नो यथा सदमिद्वृधे असन्नप्रायुवो रक्षितारो दिवेदिवे ॥ > > A no bhadrah kratavo yantu visvato.adabdhaso aparitasa udbhidah, deva no > yatha sadamid vrdhe asannaprayuvo raksitaro dive-dive > > Meaning of the mantra. > > 1.* Let noble thoughts come to us from every side*.{ and these thoughts > found in Tamil sanga Ilakkiyam and Niruktam and Mahabharatha shanti parvam > etc spread over righteously today the the 6th sept 2023 Krishna Jayanthi > day aftert he teachers' day. } > > 2. May auspicious benevolent doers of good deeds, inviolable or > un-molested from all quarters, un-forsakable or worthy of association > ,annihilators of all miseries, learned men endowed with divine virtues ever > come to our homes to give us knowledge. May they be our protectors every > day for our advancement, never failing their duties, being alert or devoid > of laziness. > > 3. As a well-built good house suitable in all seasons gives all happiness, > in the same manner, men should know that knowledge, learned persons and > yajnas consiting of art and crafts cause happiness to- all. > > “May the benevolent favour of the gods (be ours); may the bounty of the > gods, ever approving of the upright, light upon us; may we obtain the > friendship of the gods, and may the gods extend our days to longevity.” > > *The Mantra you quoted in the question is from Rig-Veda Samhita 1.89.1 - > Rishi of this Sukta is Gautama and the deity is Vishvadevas. This Mantra is > also found in Vajaseniya Samhita 25.14.* This sukta is called Shantipath > sukta or Swastimantra. where Swasti means a blessing seeking the well-being > of people. These mantras are used to invite peace and Well-being or drive > away negative and destructive forces. > > आ नो भद्राः क्रतवो यन्तु विश्वत्व् अदब्धासो अपरीतास उद्भिदः | > > देवा नो यथा सदमिद्वृधे असन्न-प्रायुवो रक्षितारो दिवे-दिवे || 1.89.1 || > > ā no bhadrāḥ kratavo kṣyantu viśvato adabdhāso aparītāsa udbhidaḥ | > > devā no yathā sadamid vṛdhe asanaprāyuvo rakṣitāro dive-dive || 1 || > > May auspicious works, unmolested, unimpeded, and subversive (of foes), > come to us from every quarter. May the Gods, turning not away from us, but > granting us protection day by day, be ever with us , for our advancement. - > H.H. Wilson. > > May noble thoughts come to us from every side, unchanged, unhindered, > undefeated in every way; May the gods always be with us for our gain and > our protectors caring for us, ceaseless, every day. - Alternate Translation > > According to scholars, this mantra shows the willingness of Vedic people > and culture to receive noble and worthy ideas/thoughts/works from all the > quarters i.e. from all the parts of the universe. That means including all > the lokas also like dyu Loka etc. which are beyond earth. But it is said > that let us not accept those noble works/thoughts/works under pressure from > something. That means we should accept those willing fully. And let the men > proceed and achieve their goal, development with those. > > This mantra is important in sociological context as explained by the > author By M. Ram Murty in his book Indian Philosophy: An Introduction. He > is explaining the context as follows > > Another celebrated hymn occurs in the first book: Ano Bhadra Kratavo yantu > visvatah (Let noble thoughts come from all directions) (Rig Veda 1.89.1 ). > This verse emphasises the complementarity of human knowledge. It highlights > the need to learn from all the directions because knowledge is not the > monopoly of any single individual or nation or race . The pursuit and > expansion of knowledge in the widest sense of the word is a collective > human endeavour. > > So in summary this mantra crosses all the boundaries of religion and > appreciates and accepts good /auspicious/ and dharmik ideas and works, > which are beneficial for society from other parts of the world/universe. > This is also a symbolism of tolerant religion, which do not hate, ban > thoughts, thought processes, rituals, customs, and beliefs from other > cultures as well. Because Vedic Dharma is Sanatana and the core teaching of > Vedic religion is Sarvam Khalvidam Brahma. So respecting all the good works > from all directions i.e. religions present in other parts from all the > directions. > > Xxxxxxxxxxxx > > AND SUBRAMANYA BHARATHO REVERBERATED IN 1939: > > வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம் > > அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம் > > வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம் > > அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம் > > பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம் > > பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம் > > எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம் > > அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம் > > > > முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே > > முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே > > மொய்த்து வணிகர் பல நாட்டினர் வந்தே > > முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே > > மொய்த்து வணிகர் பல நாட்டினர் வந்தே > > நாட்டி நமக்கினிய பொருள் கொணர்ந்தே > > நாட்டி நமக்கினிய பொருள் கொணர்ந்தே > > நம்மருள் வேண்டுவதும் மேர்கரையிலே > > முத்து குளிப்பதொரு தென்கடலிலே > > > > வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம் > > அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம் > > பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம் > > பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம் > > எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > > > ஆயுதம் செய்வோம் நல்ல காகிதம் செய்வோம் > > ஆயுதம் செய்வோம் நல்ல காகிதம் செய்வோம் > > ஆலைகள் வைப்போம் கல்வி சாலைகள் வைப்போம் > > ஆலைகள் வைப்போம் கல்வி சாலைகள் வைப்போம் > > ஓயுதல் செய்யோம் தலை சாயுதல் செய்யோம் > > ஓயுதல் செய்யோம் தலை சாயுதல் செய்யோம் > > உண்மைகள் சொல்வோம் பல வண்மைகள் செய்வோம் > > உண்மைகள் சொல்வோம் பல வண்மைகள் செய்வோம் > > > > வெள்ளி பனிமலையின் மீதுலாவுவோம் > > அடி மேலை கடல் முழுதும் கப்பல் விடுவோம் > > பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம் > > பள்ளி தளம் அனைத்தும் கோவில் செய்குவோம் > > எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > எங்கள் பாரத தேசம் என்று தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > நாங்கள் தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > நாங்கள் தோள் கொட்டுவோம் > > Vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom > > aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom > > vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom > > aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom > > paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom > > paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom > > ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom > > aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom > > > > Muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile > > muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile > > mŏyttu vaṇigar pala nāṭṭiṉar vande > > muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile > > mŏyttu vaṇigar pala nāṭṭiṉar vande > > nāṭṭi namakkiṉiya pŏruḽ kŏṇarnde > > nāṭṭi namakkiṉiya pŏruḽ kŏṇarnde > > nammaruḽ veṇḍuvadum mergaraiyile > > muttu kuḽippadŏru tĕṉkaḍalile > > > > Vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom > > aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom > > paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom > > paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom > > ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > > > Āyudam sĕyvom nalla kāgidam sĕyvom > > āyudam sĕyvom nalla kāgidam sĕyvom > > ālaigaḽ vaippom kalvi sālaigaḽ vaippom > > ālaigaḽ vaippom kalvi sālaigaḽ vaippom > > oyudal sĕyyom talai sāyudal sĕyyom > > oyudal sĕyyom talai sāyudal sĕyyom > > uṇmaigaḽ sŏlvom pala vaṇmaigaḽ sĕyvom > > uṇmaigaḽ sŏlvom pala vaṇmaigaḽ sĕyvom > > > > Vĕḽḽi paṉimalaiyiṉ mīdulāvuvom > > aḍi melai kaḍal muḻudum kappal viḍuvom > > paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom > > paḽḽi taḽam aṉaittum kovil sĕyguvom > > ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > ĕṅgaḽ pārada tesam ĕṇḍru toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > nāṅgaḽ toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > nāṅgaḽ toḽ kŏṭṭuvom > > Subramanya Bharathi evokes the rights of the Bhartatham and its culture, > seeking knowledge and wealth from all over in 1939 before even getting the > freedom for India from the British; and today we are really free to be > called *the Bharatiyan.* > He says lets walk on the Himalayas; lets send ships all over the western > seas to get the wealth from there to Bharatha Desam. Let us make the > educational institutions as a temple of worship; lets boast as BHARTHA > DESAM. > > Let us get the trade expand all over the west and bring those treasures > into the Bharatha desam. We obtain Pearls from the sea from the south and > trade over the west. Let us make war tools; make paper industry; let us > speak the truth boldly; let us start as many industries as possible and > bring in the educational institutions; and never we shall rest till all > these are achieved. Let us hail Bharatha Desam. > > And Rig vedam said it 10000 years backas: > > आ । नः । भद्राः । क्रतवः । यन्तु । विश्वतः । अदब्धासः । अपरिइतासः । > उत्भिदः । देवाः । नः । यथा । सदम् । इत् । वृधे । असन् । अप्रआयुवः । > रक्षितारः । दिवेदिवे ॥ > > ā | naḥ | bhadrāḥ | kratavaḥ | yantu | viśvataḥ | adabdhāsaḥ | > apari-itāsaḥ | ut-bhidaḥ | devāḥ | naḥ | yathā | sadam | it | vṛdhe | asan > | apra-āyuvaḥ | rakṣitāraḥ | dive—dive > > “May auspicious works, unmolested, unimpeded, and subversive (of foes), > come to us from every quarter; may the gods, turning not away from us, but > granting us protection day by day, be ever with us for our advancement.” > > K Rajartam IRS 6 9 23 > > On Wed, 6 Sept 2023 at 08:05, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > *aano bhadraaha krathanoyanthu vishvatho adabdhaaso apareethaasa > udbhidaha l* > *devaano yathaa sadamidvyadhe asannapraayuve rakshithaaro dive dive l* > *devaanaam bhadraa sumabhiryajooyathaam devaanaarabhinoni varthathaam l* > *devaanaam sakhyamupaabhimaa vayam devaana aayuhupra thiranthu jeevase l* > *thaan poorvayaa nivibhaahoomahe vayam bhagam mithramadithim > bhakshamasridham l* > *aryamanam varunam somamashvinaa sarasvathee naha subhagaa mayaskarathi > ll* > (RV Cap VI sooktham 89 vargam 15) > > meaning -- > > Let the (power of the) deathless eternal and super-powerful > fire-sacrifices which chase away far > (our) enemies approach from all directions and reach us. Let the > celestials who desire the welfare > of all beings come and join us. Let their blessings come and pour like > rain on us. Through their > blessings let us obtain their friendship and their nearness, and long life > for us. > > We are chanting the sacred verses that call the celestials to come and > which confer permanent > existence on them. We are inviting bagan, mithran, adithi, hiranyagarbha, > the community of marut > winds, adithya, varuna, soma, and the ashvin twins. > > Let goddess sarasvathi who pours the rain of well-being on everyone > present us with wealth. > > My comments. I have heard and read comments from eminent scholars saying > that this veda-vaakyam only asks that > noble thoughts should come to us from all directions. > > Far from contradicting them, I should perhaps humbly point out that the > r'g vedam invites all named celestials, plus the > Goddess Sarasvathi, to attend on those dutifully performing the > fire-sacrifice and bless them with showers of blessings > like plentiful rain which sustains the growth of foodgrains and confers > other boons such as filling ponds and lakes with > fresh water, enables sacred rivers ro flow, and the oceans to remain to > enrich the Earth on which we live. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAL4idhOAMv3UCp5p1HMKX6fWwjzyFUZ%3Ddn0e1zeA8WR9iovO4w%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAL4idhOAMv3UCp5p1HMKX6fWwjzyFUZ%3Ddn0e1zeA8WR9iovO4w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAL4idhOwgbq7oO5nN6qRnb1KGrfAu1K-rrcP0RZL%3DWTz4B-JLA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAL4idhOwgbq7oO5nN6qRnb1KGrfAu1K-rrcP0RZL%3DWTz4B-JLA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAEcNPKpUOuhmYBr4knfA_r-1bnDRCdvx1BEFK4j5YORvFc5AUQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAEcNPKpUOuhmYBr4knfA_r-1bnDRCdvx1BEFK4j5YORvFc5AUQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAEcNPKoV6W6Kj4WjNq8O7og2WQ6T0o_ZHPxWurEsYpMXBQfFdg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAEcNPKoV6W6Kj4WjNq8O7og2WQ6T0o_ZHPxWurEsYpMXBQfFdg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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