Kindly vide my email long on agama sastra dated 9/1/24. Temple analysis , north south will be written when i have time KR IRS 14124
On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 at 12:05, Narayanaswamy Sekar <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, Jan 14, 2024, 12:03 PM > Subject: Re: [iyer123] Temple > To: Iyer <[email protected]>, Kerala Iyer < > [email protected]> > > > Thanks. > > I have only a fleeting knowledge of the Agama Shastras based on what I > have heard ( not necessarily from Agama Shastra experts - but from > Upanyasams mainly) and read books and magazines and articles in journals. > > With this CAVEAT, let me say: > > As stated in the Mail, we are allowed to touch the Vigrahams and pour milk > and place flowers etc. in the North - and this includes Kedarnath Lingam ( > in the form of a small rock) and Kashi - at the Kashi Vishwanath Temple. > In fact at Kashi we witnessed the early morning (3 A M I think) Abhishekam > where ashes are being brought from a freshy burning body from the > Manikarnika Ghat. > > Of course, we have our own Kannapa Nayanar and Nandanar episodes where > Shiva demonstrated that what matters tl Him is > BHAKTHI AND BHAKTHI ALONE. > Everything else is secondary. > > Krishna has said in the B G, that He will accept even a leaf or just a > spoon of water and of course flowers and fruits(and not necessarily > elaborate shows) IF OFFERED WITH BHAKTHI - Patram, Pushpam, Palam, Thoyam. > > I hope people are aware of these two great Leelas of Shiva - of Kannappa > Nayanar and Nandanar who the Chidambaram Dikshidars carried on their > shoulders on His Orders, not to mention the other Leelas mentioned in > Thiruvilayadal Puranam. > > So, why should Modi be chosen to place the Idol of Rama of all people - we > waited for more than 500 years to get a Temple erected for Rama at his > birth place and could have waited indefinitely as we did for 500 years > until he came and sought a solution ( remember the U P A denied Rama's > existence and asked for His birth certificate?) - I feel that the court > verdict and the Pranapradhishta should happen during his tenure is DIVINE > WILL. Let us bow down in humility and gratitude and join in the > celebrations. > > Instead of rejoicing and being grateful, we harp on why he should and why > he shouldn't which does no good to us - Hindus. This is how we allow > ourselves to be divided so others can rule us. > > Bhakthi knows no caste or creed. > > Let not any divisive forces spoil a historic event; we are blessed to be > at this time to witness this. We are witnessing history in the making. > > Each part of our country and each Sect follows it's own traditions and > practices and the particular Sect associated with this temple from historic > times have chosen him and also how the worship and rituals will be > conducted. > > Let us respect their Traditions and Practices as we would expect others to > respect ours. > > Jai Sri Ram. > JAI HIND > > N Sekar > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_> > > On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 6:53 AM, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 > <[email protected]> wrote: > Sir, > > I feel the Whatsapp message forwarded is correct. > Gopalakrishnan > > On Sunday, 14 January, 2024 at 05:56:19 am IST, ARR < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > It's crucial to be well-versed in the details of knowledge and to avoid > speaking from a place of ignorance. - ====== > I am sharing what I received from a scholarly elder in another group, > don't want to quote him (with due respects to his privacy!!), hope this > helps. > > Many of us are ignorant about the temple aagama shastras and pass > comments on whatsapp gyan. > > New Temple Consecration (not the right word but this is the closest word > in English) is different from PunaruddharaNam and to some extent also from > Kumbabhishekam. > > If there is an existing temple, the murtis there are already energised by > long years of vedic chants, abhishekams and cosmic energy flowing through > the vimanas / Copper or Gold kalashams on the top. > > If that temple is to be repaired, esp inside and around the Garba Griham > , the learned pundits will do "Baalalayam" > > Baalayam means transfering the same existing energy of the murtis to a > copper plate or yantra or a gods picture and kept it away from the repair > site area > > After all the repairs are finished, painting etc are finished, they will > transfer the energy back to the main deities inside the garba griha. > > During the repair period , masons , painters , sculptors etc can enter the > garba griha and touch the deities stone murtis too. > > No offence here. > > But after the murtis are reenergised after baalalayam and the subsequent > kumbhabhishekam, nobody other than the authorised archakas well versed in > Aagama rituals can enter the gatbagriha or touch the deities > > For existing temples, kumbhabhishekam is done once in every 12 years to > clean up the channels through which the cosmic energy is transferred from > the vimana kalashams into the stone deities below. > > For new temples being constructed, only after the Praana Pathista and > Kumbhabhishekam rituals, the murtis are energised. > > Till those rituals are completed, anybody can touch the murtis without > any offence. > > In the new temples, the eyes of the stone deities are opened by the chief > sculptor / Sthapathi only after the deity is fixed on the pedestal over the > copper plates with beeja mantra of that particular deity written / drawn > and ashta bandhanam ( herbal paste) is used to seal the joints. > > Then the Prana prathista is done followed by kumbhabhishekam of the > vimana kalashams > > Only after that no outsiders are allowed to enter garba griha or touch the > deities. > > These rules are applicable only for this temples which were built on > Aagama principles and strictly followed thereafter. > > Many of the old temples in northern and western bharat wete demolished by > the invaders and after that agama rules were not followed in many temples > due to shortage of time, fear of the invading rulers etc. > > So we find that the bhakths touch the deities and worship in those > temples. But in the southern Bharat aagama temples, which were relatively > protected from the invaders , touching the deities is strictly forbidden > > So PM Modi carrying the Ram Lalla murti till it is placed on the pedestal > inside the Garba Griha is NOT an offence at all. > > Since the rituals of Prana Prathista and Vimana kalashams kumbhabhishekam > will be done only after that, ( energising the newly made idols), there is > no agama rule getting broken here. > > Sculptors often STAND on the idols they make. What they make is a > prathima. Esoteric rituals done on this will elevate it to a bimbam. > Further rituals make it a Vigraham ( vesheshena graahyathi ) that which has > the ability to absorb and emit divine Energies. > > By the way the praana prathishta STARTS with an apology to the > Onmipresent Sarvavyaapi saying "forgive me for trying to limit the > limitless YOU into this Vigraham . > > " The worship methodology of Vigrahams in a temple like Abhishekam ( > bathing ), dressing up ( alankaaram ), feeding ( naivedyam ) etc IS BECAUSE > WE HAVE REDUCED THE DIVINE TO OUR HUMAN LEVEL. > > This is why any mistake in the aaachaarams will negatively affect the > Deities and therefore the temple and consequently the bhakthas. The reverse > is equally applicable. > > It's a compilation from several tweets via Whatsapp, kindly excuse > multiple tweets. > > PS: I have the formal confirmation, to share here, from the author, Shri > Kannan Ramaswamy for above 'insights' on this topic. - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CABnwRDcg3Sip3Od-Gab%2B%2BYZFEYq6n1014e-aWgAk3jfAAf3WCQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CABnwRDcg3Sip3Od-Gab%2B%2BYZFEYq6n1014e-aWgAk3jfAAf3WCQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1283332441.776682.1705195403151%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/1283332441.776682.1705195403151%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/63392910.946736.1705214016058%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/63392910.946736.1705214016058%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Thatha_Patty" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CABC81ZfpHXYEpTT-0nWSHxTHdcj7Ue06-oScdjq_NrV4vE8NnA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CABC81ZfpHXYEpTT-0nWSHxTHdcj7Ue06-oScdjq_NrV4vE8NnA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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