Dear all
10 min cut of Bala bharatham;Mr G though 80 still lives in the kid
age only; he did not shift even into vyasar virundhu of Rajaji; then how
will he know the original mahabharata of splendor wonders? Karpooram
narumo? Kamalapoo narumo? Karpoora vasana NGkkuth teriyumo? KR IRS 5324
On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 06:59, gopala krishnan <gopa4...@yahoo.in> wrote:
> Respected sirs,
>
> I was busy in the morning on domestic front. Later when I read I did not
> respond because for Mr Rajaram, He is Devarshi, whatever he writes are
> Deva vakyam.
>
> What I have read in Balabharatham in my boyhood days is *all Pandavas
> were nephews to Lord Krishna. *
>
> " Krishna shared a special bond with the Pandavas because he was related
> to them. The Pandavas' mother, Kunti, was a cousin of Vasudev, Krishna's
> biological father"-Google search.
>
> *Friendship and relationship are different. *
>
> I do not recollect a single occasion Droupadi behaved with Lord Krishna in
> a friendly manner.
> *All Pandavas and Droupadi respected Lord Krishna*
>
> Gopalkrishnan
>
> On Tuesday, 5 March, 2024 at 05:21:33 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
> iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear folks
>
> When our unemployed ex-exciseman tries to put on the mantle of a supreme
> archaic philosopher, and spouts words that "out-Herod Herod", as on this
> occasion, he falls promptly flat on his face, and ends up with a bloody
> nose, a dislodged lower jawbone, and a cracked forehead.
>
> Hear the foghorn blowing:-
>
> "*The Friendship Between Krishna And Draupadi Doesn’t Need A Societal
> Definition*
>
> *"Krishna promotes freedom of thoughts and actions, while Draupadi
> demonstrates that freedom through her thoughts and actions all her life.*
>
> *"This relationship does not require an accord of socially accepted norms.
> It does not require physical presence or recognition of a form. This
> relationship is an epitome of openness of mind and progressive thinking of
> Draupadi and Krishna.*
>
> *"Their knot strengthens after her marriage**.*"
>
>
> My comments:- (1) Draupathi and Krishna had a private mutual "knot of
> friendship" even before her marriage to the five brothers?
>
>
> (2) This "knot" never ever existed between Draupathi and her five husbands
> throughout her life?
>
>
> (3) During the Mahaabhaaratha war, did Krishna allow his close friend
> Arjuna to have his own thoughts and actions, or did he force down Arjuna's
> throat Krishna's own (contrary) thoughts and actions?
>
>
> (4) Did Draupathi, who was the helpless captive prize in an archery match,
> have the freedom to refuse to marry and to serve more than one husband?
>
>
> (5) Is there a "non-Societal" definition of friendship? If so, what
> exactly is it?
>
>
> (6) Was there ever a true friendship between Draupathi and Arjuna, or
> between Draupathi and her other four husbands?
>
>
> (7) Was the "special Non-Societal Friendship" between Draupathi and
> Krishna merely an illicit bond behind the backs of her wedded husbands?
>
>
> (8) Was such friendship a betrayal by Krishna of his In-Societal
> Friendship with Raadhaa?
>
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 10:54 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> CULTURAL QA 03202405
>
> Q1 What did you learn from your best friend?
>
> KR What is real friendship? Not travelling in Rail where one meet
> someone and you or him off the rail and then forgotten. Good friends exist
> as a kid till death parts them apart, singing together as well as fighting
> with each other and helping at others’ cost.
>
> The Friendship Between Krishna And Draupadi Doesn’t Need A Societal
> Definition
>
> Krishna promotes freedom of thoughts and actions, while Draupadi
> demonstrates that freedom through her thoughts and actions all her life.
>
> Krishna promotes freedom of thoughts and actions, while Draupadi
> demonstrates that freedom through her thoughts and actions all her life.
>
> This relationship does not require an accord of socially accepted norms.
> It does not require physical presence or recognition of a form. This
> relationship is an epitome of openness of mind and progressive thinking of
> Draupadi and Krishna.
>
> Their knot strengthens after her marriage
>
> A knot of friendship between Draupadi and Krishna gets knit tighter after
> Draupadi’s Swayamvara. Krishna is present on the occasion of an archery
> contest arranged for her. Draupadi is bequeathed with such a magnetic
> beauty that every male looking at her wants to possess her.
>
> Draupadi is a good judge of character and takes note of this distinction
> of Krishna’s character. He is someone who is absolved of all kinds of lust
> and greed of possession. She appreciates that Krishna values self-respect
> and honour of others without a gender discrimination.
>
> Draupadi also starts reciprocating a same kind of behaviour with respect
> to Krishna. Although Krishna becomes her brother-in-law after her marriage,
> he considers her his friend. He does not consider it necessary to put a
> layer of any other relationship between them.
>
> A relationship between them starts blooming like petals of a lotus. This
> shows greatness of Draupadi’s character. She is someone who can distinguish
> an exceptional behaviour, appreciate it and embed the same in her own life.
>
> Draupadi and Krishna share the commonalities in their respective
> appearance. Both of them are considered an epitome of aesthetic appearance.
> However, both of them are dark in colour, as against a common canon of
> beauty attached to a fairness.
>
> This progressiveness and comprehensiveness of approach on part of Draupadi
> and Krishna towards beauty is astounding even for contemporary women. A
> contemporary woman should embrace this progressive and comprehensive
> approach towards beauty.
>
> Draupadi and Krishna both are the kind of personalities who can withstand
> against everything in life. They know how to make their own way and to move
> ahead in life. And also, to bring fulfilment to their own life as well as
> in the life of others.
>
> Being married to the Pandavas, gives Draupadi the purpose to the journey
> of her life. Both Draupadi and Krishna, are enlightened souls and strive to
> make both their own and their partners lives meaningful.
>
> A journey of life of Draupadi and Krishna is like a circumambulation. They
> together ambulate in a circle of their own life. And bring a motion to all
> those who come in a sphere of their life. Together, they create a positive
> circuit of a life where Dharma prevails. Draupadi and Krishna together set
> an example that life is not about having the best but is all about giving
> out the best.
>
> A relationship with Krishna never constrained Draupadi in her role of
> dutiful wife. On the other hand, a relationship with Krishna has provided a
> new perspective to Draupadi’s marital life. A relationship with Draupadi
> has opened a world of womanhood for Krishna. It helped him understand a
> woman with a better perspective and in turn, create a new path for women
> empowerment.
>
> A relationship with Krishna turned an introvert Draupadi into an extrovert
> and helped her understand each of her husbands with a broader perspective.
> A wife’s male friend is never looked upon positively in a society. However,
> Draupadi treads a new path by taking an initiative to build a positive
> relationship of her husbands with Krishna. Draupadi considers Krishna a
> benchmark of the perfect man. This helped her work towards bringing
> several notch elevations to characters of each of her husbands.
>
> Faith and respect are the foundation rocks of the relationship between
> Draupadi and Krishna. Their respect for each other has stemmed from a deep
> understanding of each other’s character. The common characteristic between
> them is their ability to read the other person with all of their emotions
> and to judge on all possible parameters.
>
> Like good attracts good, Draupadi and Krishna form a magnetic
> relationship. This great respect has resulted in faith towards each other.
> This faith has been strengthened through various episodes of their life,
> where they showed a great amount of mutual understanding.
>
> The extreme level of mutual understanding takes a relationship between
> Draupadi and Krishna to new heights. Both of them try to understand an
> ideology and perspective of each other. In the bargain, both of them with
> their progressive thinking set up a new path for feminism.
>
> Krishna is the one whose principles are based on equality. He recognises
> Draupadi’s potential and pushes her to excel in all the spheres of life,
> irrespective of the constraints put in the society for a woman. Draupadi
> appreciates his progressiveness and follows the same path for her life.
>
> Krishna is the one who knows the value of self-respect and honour and
> always encourages an act to protect the same for others. Therefore, at the
> time of public disrobing of Draupadi, he is the one she seeks. His support
> acts as a catalyst in her life and changes old perceptions and sets up new
> ones.
>
> Krishna often encourages Draupadi to live a life without the pressure from
> the society. As a result, Draupadi, follows her instincts and achieves the
> best in her life. Krishna and Draupadi have together bring new perspective
> to woman empowerment. One that says, there is nothing but growth and
> development in life without gender bias.
>
> Krishna promotes freedom of thoughts and actions, while Draupadi
> demonstrates that freedom through her thoughts and actions all her life.
> One can say that on the chess board of Mahabharata, Krishna is like the
> king, the hero of the game who plays limited moves. On the other hand,
> Draupadi is like a queen, the female hero who actually brings momentum to
> the game with a vast range of moves. At the end Mahabharata tells us that
> there is a victory on Pandavas side with Krishna as a king and Draupadi as
> a queen.
>
> Krishna is a social leader who brings a revolution in the social values
> through his discourse of Bhagwat Geeta. Through the Bhagwat Geeta, he
> explains principles of life by churning out the knowledge of Vedas. Krishna
> elucidates the Bhagwat Geeta to Arjun on the brink of Kurukshetra war to
> provide a holistic solution to his dilemma.
>
> Although the Bhagwat Geeta is discourse to Arjun, Draupadi’s husband,
> Draupadi has in reality practiced its principles. Through the principles of
> life, Geeta provides guidance on self-exploration of a human being. Krishna
> explains three ways of self-exploration – behavioural, emotional and
> intellectual.
>
> A behavioural way of self-exploration emphasises a discipline of action to
> perform duties without consideration of personal desires. Draupadi has been
> dutiful throughout life in all her actions. As a daughter, she has been
> able to fulfill the desire of revenge of her father by being a cause of
> internecine war in the Kuru clan. And as a wife, she exemplifies a faithful
> companion to all five husbands.
>
> As a daughter-in-law, she works in tandem with her mother-in-law for the
> betterment of a family. And as a mother, she successfully integrates good
> values in her children and takes all decisions in the interest of the
> well-being of her children. As a queen, she works hard towards bringing
> peace and happiness in the life of her kingdom. She follows her instincts
> and acts without being attached to the results of her deeds. In nutshell,
> she lives behavioural principles elucidated by Krishna.
>
> Draupadi seeks self-exploration at intellectual level through her
> continual quest for wisdom of life. A journey of Draupadi’s life is on the
> path of achieving wisdom of life. She explores things around her with
> openness of mind and takes learnings along the way of life and transforms
> her learnings into the wisdom of life.
>
> Through this wisdom Draupadi gives meaning to her life and the world
> around. With an axe of wisdom she is able to cut through slices of reality
> and look at the fruits of the results with a detached approach. Draupadi is
> able to do an analysis of a situation and a synthesis of the events that
> take place around her. This application of principles at intellectual level
> helps Draupadi to move ahead in life.
>
> A foundation of the emotional way of self-exploration is a faith in the
> positive energy of life. Draupadi showcases strong faith in this and faces
> all the difficulties with equanimity of mind, without being demoralised.
> She has strong faith in the power of thoughts. Throughout her life Draupadi
> tries to attain “oneness” with Krishna’s thoughts because she believes
> these will help her surpass all hindrances and achieve her goal. This
> connect brings completeness to Draupadi’s character and makes her life a
> beautiful and complete picture.
>
> And Krishnarjuna is a different type which I will discuss later. K
> R IRS 5 2 24
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Q2 What are the characteristics of an intelligent person?
>
> KR What is intelligence in Vedas?
>
> In his work Panchadasi (section 6) Vidyaranya swami speaks about the four
> preliminary conditions of Brahman. They are unassociated intelligence,
> intelligence associated with Maya, intelligence of the intellect, and
> intelligence associated with the gross bodies. (4 types). These four
> manifest in the macrocosm as Isvara, Brahman, Isvara, Hiranyagarbha, and
> Virat respectively. Virat is the world. Hiranyagarbha is the cosmic Self.
> Isvara is the Supreme Lord and Brahman is the Supreme Self, who is not
> subject to any modifications. Just as everything in a painting rests upon
> the canvas, everything in creation rests upon the Supreme Brahman. Just as
> the different images in the painting share the same canvas and are
> identical with it, all beings in creation share the same intelligence of
> Brahman, which acts as the substratum. He also explains what Avidya means.
> Accepting the worldly existence as the supreme object of life and mistaking
> it as related to Brahman is an error or ignorance. It is removed only by
> knowledge. True knowledge is perceiving Brahman as the source of all and
> the underlying truth of all. Suck knowledge destroys ignorance. With such
> knowledge one becomes aware of the impermanence of things and the
> transience of mortal life.
>
> A brief note on Panchadasi: Panchadasi is a medieval work on the Vedanta.
> It was authored by Swami Vidyaranya who lived in the 14th century and
> served as the teacher and family priest of Bukka Raya. Prior to his
> renunciation, he was known as Madhava, Madhavarya, Madhvacharya, and
> Madhavamatya. Swami Vidyaranya was a great proponent of Advaita, the
> philosophy of non-duality or monism. Panchadasi reflects his belief in the
> unitary nature of existence and Brahmas as the only reality.
>
> All other intelligence like 10000 will not buy 20000 phone etc are
> baseless intelligence review.
>
> Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Q4 Who are the craziest/most awesome Indians ever?
>
> KR The question is framed illogically though I welcome the right
> person exposed by Mr G. Yes, as we write Indian though many are only NRIs.
> Paul is also one such. We lose track of real intelligence. The sad aspect
> is-should it be happening even in the BJP regime? And also remember there
> are excellent village scientists who were not recognised by the world; but
> a Stanford is a Stanford for Marconi; Navy red tapism is a pitiable
> chapter; yet the best element rarely seen from Mr G. I am happy sir K
> Rajaram IRS 5324
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *'gopala krishnan' via iyer123* <iyer...@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 at 19:22
> Subject: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 03-2024-05
> To: Patty Thatha <thatha_patty@googlegroups.com>, Kerala Iyer <
> keralaiy...@googlegroups.com>, Iyer <iyer...@googlegroups.com>
>
>
> CULTURAL QA 03-2024-05
>
> All the below QA are from Quora DIGEST to me on 05-03-2024.
>
> Selected quora answers generally interesting including jokes are included
> Still they need not be 100% correct answers. I am only a compiler.
>
> Compiled and posted by R. Gopala Krishnan, 80, on 05-03-2024.
>
> Q1 What did you learn from your best friend?
>
> A1 Gopalkrishna Vishwanath, Willing responder to survey questions 5y
>
> I learned that there are no permanent best friends.
>
> Over a period of 69 years I have had so many persons who could have been
> called ‘best friend’.
>
> Many are untraceable. I am totally out of touch with them.
>
> No one became an enemy. Most simply moved away due to circumstances.
>
> Some retained contact for some time and then slowly we forgot all about
> each other.
>
> There were some instances where, due to the power of the internet, I
> located some long lost “best friends”. It was not of much use. Too much
> had happened in the intervening years and they were now not the same
> persons I used to know earlier.
>
> Last year I went to BITS Pilani, for our Golden Jubilee Alumnii meet. All
> the 1967 batch graduates planned to meet there.
>
> 120 out of the 300 from the 1967 batch gathered there for a three day bash.
>
> I met old ‘best friends’ whom I had not seen for half a century. Many were
> unrecognizable. With some I could rekindle the old spark and with some it
> was not possible.
>
> Reasons were two fold. One was some of them had moved up in life to a
> totally different economic bracket. They were big, important people and
> also powerful and rich compared to my modest middle class status. I felt
> the difference. They were of course polite and cordial but there was a
> glass wall between us and while renewing old contact, I could not breach
> that barrier. I was wary of being snubbed if I tried to take a liberty that
> I could freely take in the past. They too did not encourage me to get more
> familiar. We of course exchanged phone numbers and email addresses but
> neither contacted the other after the meet was over.
>
> The second reason was that with some of them, too much had happened in
> their lives. Tragedies, deaths, loss of money, health issues, divorces or
> other family problems had affected them during these last 50 years and it
> showed in the lines of worry and weariness on their faces and they did not
> want to discuss them. All they could do was to shake hands with me and
> talk formally. These were certainly not my old ‘best friends’.
>
> The only best friend who remained my best friend all these 43 years is my
> wife.
>
> Q2 What are the characteristics of an intelligent person?
>
> A2 Chauhan Babu Nath,Sun
>
> An intelligent person who earns Rs 10000 never keeps a phone worth Rs
> 20000.
>
> An intelligent person does not buy a car or house bike on loan.
>
> An intelligent person will not waste time on Facebook, WhatsApp, Netflix.
>
> An intelligent person will not argue with anyone on social media on social
> and political issues.
>
> An intelligent person never depends on just one source of income.
>
> An intelligent person does not waste money on expensive clothes, expensive
> car, expensive watch and other expensive things and invests that money.
>
> A wise person does not share the private matters of his home with everyone.
>
> An intelligent person is very punctual.
>
> Intelligent people take care of their health.
>
> It is through mistakes that a man becomes wise, a wise man never makes the
> same mistake twice.
>
> Q3 Can you tell a Viral Story in Nigeria?
>
> A3 Rutty,11h
>
> A beer company was hiring a taster, Someone to taste the beers before they
> are taken for selling. So they placed adverts and one afternoon, a man
> walked into the manager's office asking to be employed.
>
> The manager tried to figure out how he could drive him away but couldn't
> come up with an idea, so he decided to give him a trial. He ordered his
> secretary to give him a glass of wine 🍷
>
> He took a sip and said, "It's Red wine, Varietal, three years old, grown
> on rift valley, matured in steel containers."
>
> "That's correct!" The manager exclaimed, "Well give him another one let's
> see." So he was given.
>
> He took a sip again and said, "It's Guinness, a combination of barley,
> roast malt extract, and brewers yeast brewed around Thika road in Nairobi,
> Kenya 2 years ago"
>
> "Incredible!" said the manager.
>
> Now the manager went closer to the secretary and whispered to her saying, "Go
> get some of your urine in a cup let's see if he will get that."
>
> So the man was given the cup of urine. He took a sip, turned to the
> manager and said, "Female urine, 26 years old, 2 weeks pregnant and if
> I'm not given this job, Sir I will tell your wife who is responsible for
> the pregnancy"
>
> Both th manager and the secretary fainted 😁
>
> The man got the job✌
>
> Q4 Who are the craziest/most awesome Indians ever?
>
> A4 Abhishek Singh,Studied at Army Public School, Jammu Cantt.9y
>
> Arogyaswami Joseph Paulraj
>
> · A J Paulraj became the 2nd Indian in the world to win the prestigious
> Marconi
> Prize for developing the MIMO techinology.
>
> · That Wi-Fi router at your home, office, school, or the 4G phone that you
> use? All of those devices utilize the MIMO technology which was pioneered
> by him.
>
> · An India-born engineer-scientist AJ ‘Paul’ who was disdained by the
> Indian system despite his yeoman contribution to the country's naval
> defence, and whose subsequent work in the United States is at the heart of
> the current high speed WiFi and 4G mobile systems, has been awarded the
> 2014 Marconi Prize, a Nobel equivalent for technology pioneers.
>
> · The Marconi Prize, whose previous winners include world wide web pioneer
> Tim Berners-Lee, Internet legend Vint Cerf, Google search maestro Larry
> Page, and cell phone inventor Martin Cooper, comes with a $ 100,000 prize,
> but prestige and recognition worth a lot more for these people who are
> already millionaires. Uncommonly, the Marconi Prize comes just three years
> after Paulraj was honored with the other major Telecom technology award -
> the IEEE Alexander Graham Bell Medalfor his work on theoretical foundations
> of MIMO.
>
> · The Marconi Prize is an annual award recognizing advancements in
> communications awarded by the Marconi Foundation The Prize includes a
> $100,000 honorarium and a work of sculpture, and honorees are called
> Marconi Fellows. The Society and Prize are named in honor of Guglielmo
> Marconi
>
> , a Nobel laureate and one of the pioneers of radio.
>
> · Also known as A J Paulraj, he is the pioneer of a breakthrough wireless
> technology known as MIMO (multiple input, multiple output) that
> dramatically increases performance of wireless systems. MIMO is now core
> technology in latest WiFi and LTE systems.
>
> · Arogyaswami J Paulraj was born in Pollachi near Coimbatore, India. He
> joined the Indian Navy at age 15 through the National Defence Academy,
> Kharakvalsa and served the Navy for 30 years. Paulraj received his
> bachelor’s degree in electrical engineering from the Naval College of
> Engineering, Lonavala, India, and his doctorate in electrical engineering
> from the Indian Institute of Technology, New Delhi.
>
> He is currently a Professor Emeritus at the Dept. of Elect. Engineering,
> Stanford University.
>
> · The story goes that in 1970, Stanford Prof. Thomas Kailath, a brilliant
> and influential systems theorist who is himself a Pune-native, visited IIT
> Delhi to lecture on non-linear estimation. Inspired by Kailath's lectures,
> Paul went on to make fundamental advances in the area much to the Indian
> Navy's benefit. In 1971, after the war with Pakistan exposed shortcomings
> of the Navy's (British origin) sonars leading to the loss of a Naval ship,
> Paul led a successful project to redesign the sonar adding many new signal
> processing concepts. Three years later the new technology was widely
> deployed in the fleet.
>
> · Paulraj was issued a patent for the MIMO concept in 1994. He faced
> skepticism from industry and funding sources and practical application of
> the technology was not seen until the early 2000s. Among the obstacles,
> digital transmission was needed to fully exploit the potential of MIMO, but
> the U.S. wireless industry was still predominantly analog at the time.
>
> · However, Paulraj persisted and held annual workshops at Stanford on the
> technology that eventually helped interest in MIMO and spatial multiplexing
> take hold.Paulraj’s MIMO technology is now crucial to local area and
> mobile wireless communications. MIMO allows both higher data rates and
> wider coverage areas. MIMO technology involves using multiple antennas at
> both the transmit station and the receive station. Paulraj first developed
> the idea of MIMO in 1992 while at Stanford University.
>
> Awards and Honours
>
> · Visiting / Honorary Professorships
>
> · Imperial College, London
>
> · Beijing Institute of Post and Telegraph, Beijing
>
> · Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi
>
> · Paulraj is the author of over 400 research papers, two text books and a
> co-inventor in 59 US patents.
>
> · He is a fellow of seven scientific academies including the US National
> Academy of Engineering and the Royal Swedish Academy of Engineering
> Sciences. He is a fellow of IEEE and AAAS.
>
> · During his 30 years in the Indian (Navy) (1961-1991), he founded three
> national level laboratories in India and headed one of India’s most
> successful military R&D projects – APSOH sonar. He received over a dozen
> awards (many at the national level) in India including the Padma Bhushan,
> Ati Vishist Seva Medal and the VASVIK Medal.
>
> Professional Awards
>
> · 2014 Marconi Prize and Fellowship
>
> · 2011 IEEE Alexander Graham Bell Medal [ The Bell Medal is the highest
> IEEE honor for achievements in telecommunications sciences and engineering.]
>
> · 2011 Pan-IIT Technology Leadership Award
>
> · 2010 Padma Bhushan (Civilian National Award - India)
>
> · 2003 IEEE SP Society Technical Achievement Award
>
> · 1998 Distinguished Alumnus Award, Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi
> 1985 Scientist of the Year (Awarded by Government of India)
>
> · 1983 Ati Vishist Seva Medal (National Award, Military - India)
>
> · 1982 VASVIK Gold Medal (Industry Innovation - India)
>
> · 1974 V.K. Jain Memorial Gold Medal (Navy Award - India)
>
> · 1974 Vishist Seva Medal (National Award, Military - India)
>
> · 1973 CNS Medal (Navy Award - India)
>
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