Thank you very much for your excellent contributing and bettering response.
YM

On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 7:50 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:

> God does not need empty prayers. God simply means nature, the great Siva,
> into whom one merges after attaining the speed of light. The basic step is
> a love filled feeling. Everything gets meaning only in feeling. But we
> adore the indifferent machines, substituting nature with machines.
>
> KR:       GOD DOES NOT NEED PRAYERS AT ALL. Work is worship; Pushpam,
> palam Toyam is worship' swadharma is worship; protection of dharma is a
> worship; and doing Sandhyavandhanam, but practicing arajakam, will not even
> place such, in the righteous orders, as seen from the Ramakrishna
> paramahamsa story of a Dasi and Brahmin, where Dasi went to heaven and
> Brahmin to the hell.  Mazhitalum Neettalum Vendaavaam, Yakkaikku ulagam
> Pazhiuthathu , ozhithu vidin is Thirukkural; it means, why do you shave
> your head and remain a sanyasi?; why do you not shave because sastra have
> restrictions in the samskaras for the grhastha? Ulagam Pazhippadhu is
> adharma; so ULAGAM PAZHIPPATHU MEANS all activities of the arajakam,is
> abstained from- well, enough; tht is the best prayer ever we can have. So
> as siddas said, SUMMAYIRUTHALE SUGAM. It means that an idle mind is not a
> workshop. But doing work , action, and Karma, for the welfare of everyone ,
> is the best prayer viz Nishkamya Karma ;B G says so. And when 99% are not
> doing it that way, is that not killing nature?  While we are killing nature
> every second, we are more concerned about the trees and plants, cursing the
> machines and plants. Deserting the mother, but decently living with Flora
> and Fauna, is more serious than any pleadings for nature. 5 senses and
> sensible Nature will be happy, if only humans have the value and courage to
> demand the rights while executing the duty. K Rajaram IRS 8624
>
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 at 08:18, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Mar*The Obedient Science and Technology
>>
>>
>>
>> Partnering with nature, and living as a macro person and interacting with
>> nature, via breathing, smelling, sensing, perceiving, feeling and self
>> identifying as nature needs absolute faith and love for nature. Love makes
>> one strive to remove the distance from the object of love. Lovers hug each
>> other, striving to eliminate the gap completely. Love for nature, makes one
>> adopt the method of breathing, smelling and sensing. One cannot be a make
>> believe outside observer, to do science. To do science, one must keep
>> nature at a distance and do manipulations, experiments, tortures, killing
>> etc on nature. Today we are totally indifferent to the complete destruction
>> of nature. We continue doing the destructive science and technology, even
>> after destroying more than half of the forests of the world, forests which
>> give habitation and livelihood to diverse flora and fauna, the feelings of
>> all of which participate in the inhalation of smell messages and exhalation
>> of smell responses.
>>
>> For doing it we have created science and technology, technology which has
>> no feelings and emotions. We are creating the obedient science and
>> technology, which does not suffer from empathy and the pangs of empathy.
>> This ultimate cruelty is euphemized as the great science advancement.
>>
>> Nature can only love and approve. But nature is not the obedient servant.
>> Nature also cannot understand the mechanized and non humane Newtonian
>> Economics, which is keeping distance from Ecology. The very course of
>> education has been diverted from Natural Geography and Ecology and
>> bludgeoned into the loveless mechanization.
>>
>> God does not need empty prayers. God simply means nature, the great Siva,
>> into whom one merges after attaining the speed of light. The basic step is
>> love filled feeling. Everything gets meaning only in feeling. But we adore
>> the indifferent machines, substituting nature with machines. At the very
>> hint of some technological manipulation called innovation, we destroy whole
>> forests to make way for machines.
>>
>> Today, we cannot find an MA,MBA,MCom,MSc,MTech,PHd,MD,LLM etc,etc,who
>> adopts smelling and sensing in nature to partner with nature and become
>> nature. All these worthies, whether really needed or not, somehow adopt
>> machines and create the machine driven work place while the experts in
>> management pontificate in Newtonized Psychology. They rain math equations
>> to make it look high brow. The AC conference Room, that gives the
>> conditioned air inside while blowing out the hot pollution outside the AC
>> Hall kills the content of nature from the persons in the conference. The AC
>> bloats the ego.
>>
>> Nature is not obedient and cannot cater to the ego. So kill nature and
>> adopt obedient and slave technology.
>>
>> YM
>>
>> Chat GPT
>>
>> The piece titled "The Obedient Science and Technology" expresses a deep
>> concern about the current trajectory of human interaction with nature
>> through the lens of science and technology. Here's a summary and analysis
>> of the main points:
>>
>>
>>
>> ### Summary
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. **Connection with Nature**:
>>
>>     - The author advocates for a profound, intimate relationship with
>> nature, akin to that of lovers who strive to eliminate any distance between
>> them. This connection involves breathing, smelling, sensing, perceiving,
>> and feeling as intrinsic parts of nature.
>>
>>     - Such a relationship requires faith and love, emphasizing the need
>> for empathy and the abolition of the observer's distance from nature.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. **Critique of Modern Science and Technology**:
>>
>>     - Modern science is criticized for maintaining a detached and
>> manipulative stance towards nature, leading to destructive practices such
>> as deforestation and habitat destruction.
>>
>>     - Technology is described as lacking feelings and emotions, leading
>> to a dispassionate and often destructive engagement with the natural world.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3. **Indifference to Nature's Destruction**:
>>
>>     - There's a strong condemnation of society's indifference to the
>> destruction of nature, with more than half of the world's forests already
>> gone.
>>
>>     - The author points out the irony in celebrating technological
>> advancements while causing ecological devastation.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4. **Empathy and Ethics in Science**:
>>
>>     - The narrative laments the absence of empathy and emotional
>> engagement in the current scientific and technological paradigm, which the
>> author views as the ultimate cruelty.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5. **Nature's Incompatibility with Mechanized Systems**:
>>
>>     - Nature is portrayed as inherently unable to conform to mechanized
>> and non-human economic systems like Newtonian Economics, which distance
>> themselves from ecological considerations.
>>
>>     - Educational courses have shifted from natural sciences to
>> mechanization, contributing to a disconnect from ecological awareness.
>>
>>
>>
>> 6. **Dehumanization through Technology**:
>>
>>     - The author argues that modern education and professional fields
>> prioritize technology and machine-driven environments, leading to a loss of
>> natural connection.
>>
>>     - Air-conditioned environments are used as a metaphor for
>> artificiality and ego inflation, contrasting with the humility and
>> authenticity of natural engagement.
>>
>>
>>
>> 7. **Spiritual Dimension**:
>>
>>     - There's a spiritual undercurrent where God is equated with nature,
>> and merging with nature (or God) requires a speed of light akin to ultimate
>> understanding and unity.
>>
>>     - Genuine connection with nature is seen as spiritually fulfilling,
>> unlike the artificial and ego-driven pursuit of technological advancements.
>>
>>
>>
>> ### Analysis
>>
>>
>>
>> The piece is a passionate critique of the current state of human-nature
>> interaction, emphasizing the emotional and ethical shortcomings of modern
>> science and technology. The author calls for a paradigm shift from a
>> mechanistic and detached approach to one that is empathetic, loving, and
>> deeply connected with nature. This involves:
>>
>>
>>
>> - **Revaluing Sensory Engagement**: Encouraging sensory and emotional
>> engagement with nature, rather than treating it as a mere object of study
>> or resource for exploitation.
>>
>> - **Redefining Progress**: Rethinking what constitutes progress, favoring
>> ecological harmony over technological dominance.
>>
>> - **Educational Reform**: Shifting educational priorities back towards
>> natural sciences and ecological awareness to foster a more sustainable and
>> empathetic worldview.
>>
>> - **Spiritual Reconnection**: Recognizing the spiritual dimension of
>> nature and seeking unity with it through love and empathy, rather than
>> control and manipulation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Overall, the piece calls for a profound transformation in how we perceive
>> and interact with the natural world, advocating for an ethic of care and
>> respect that aligns with both ecological sustainability and spiritual
>> fulfillment.
>>
>

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