welcome KR

On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 at 12:17, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you very much for your excellent contributing and bettering response.
> YM
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 7:50 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> God does not need empty prayers. God simply means nature, the great Siva,
>> into whom one merges after attaining the speed of light. The basic step is
>> a love filled feeling. Everything gets meaning only in feeling. But we
>> adore the indifferent machines, substituting nature with machines.
>>
>> KR:       GOD DOES NOT NEED PRAYERS AT ALL. Work is worship; Pushpam,
>> palam Toyam is worship' swadharma is worship; protection of dharma is a
>> worship; and doing Sandhyavandhanam, but practicing arajakam, will not even
>> place such, in the righteous orders, as seen from the Ramakrishna
>> paramahamsa story of a Dasi and Brahmin, where Dasi went to heaven and
>> Brahmin to the hell.  Mazhitalum Neettalum Vendaavaam, Yakkaikku ulagam
>> Pazhiuthathu , ozhithu vidin is Thirukkural; it means, why do you shave
>> your head and remain a sanyasi?; why do you not shave because sastra have
>> restrictions in the samskaras for the grhastha? Ulagam Pazhippadhu is
>> adharma; so ULAGAM PAZHIPPATHU MEANS all activities of the arajakam,is
>> abstained from- well, enough; tht is the best prayer ever we can have. So
>> as siddas said, SUMMAYIRUTHALE SUGAM. It means that an idle mind is not a
>> workshop. But doing work , action, and Karma, for the welfare of everyone ,
>> is the best prayer viz Nishkamya Karma ;B G says so. And when 99% are not
>> doing it that way, is that not killing nature?  While we are killing nature
>> every second, we are more concerned about the trees and plants, cursing the
>> machines and plants. Deserting the mother, but decently living with Flora
>> and Fauna, is more serious than any pleadings for nature. 5 senses and
>> sensible Nature will be happy, if only humans have the value and courage to
>> demand the rights while executing the duty. K Rajaram IRS 8624
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 at 08:18, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Mar*The Obedient Science and Technology
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Partnering with nature, and living as a macro person and interacting
>>> with nature, via breathing, smelling, sensing, perceiving, feeling and self
>>> identifying as nature needs absolute faith and love for nature. Love makes
>>> one strive to remove the distance from the object of love. Lovers hug each
>>> other, striving to eliminate the gap completely. Love for nature, makes one
>>> adopt the method of breathing, smelling and sensing. One cannot be a make
>>> believe outside observer, to do science. To do science, one must keep
>>> nature at a distance and do manipulations, experiments, tortures, killing
>>> etc on nature. Today we are totally indifferent to the complete destruction
>>> of nature. We continue doing the destructive science and technology, even
>>> after destroying more than half of the forests of the world, forests which
>>> give habitation and livelihood to diverse flora and fauna, the feelings of
>>> all of which participate in the inhalation of smell messages and exhalation
>>> of smell responses.
>>>
>>> For doing it we have created science and technology, technology which
>>> has no feelings and emotions. We are creating the obedient science and
>>> technology, which does not suffer from empathy and the pangs of empathy.
>>> This ultimate cruelty is euphemized as the great science advancement.
>>>
>>> Nature can only love and approve. But nature is not the obedient
>>> servant. Nature also cannot understand the mechanized and non humane
>>> Newtonian Economics, which is keeping distance from Ecology. The very
>>> course of education has been diverted from Natural Geography and Ecology
>>> and bludgeoned into the loveless mechanization.
>>>
>>> God does not need empty prayers. God simply means nature, the great
>>> Siva, into whom one merges after attaining the speed of light. The basic
>>> step is love filled feeling. Everything gets meaning only in feeling. But
>>> we adore the indifferent machines, substituting nature with machines. At
>>> the very hint of some technological manipulation called innovation, we
>>> destroy whole forests to make way for machines.
>>>
>>> Today, we cannot find an MA,MBA,MCom,MSc,MTech,PHd,MD,LLM etc,etc,who
>>> adopts smelling and sensing in nature to partner with nature and become
>>> nature. All these worthies, whether really needed or not, somehow adopt
>>> machines and create the machine driven work place while the experts in
>>> management pontificate in Newtonized Psychology. They rain math equations
>>> to make it look high brow. The AC conference Room, that gives the
>>> conditioned air inside while blowing out the hot pollution outside the AC
>>> Hall kills the content of nature from the persons in the conference. The AC
>>> bloats the ego.
>>>
>>> Nature is not obedient and cannot cater to the ego. So kill nature and
>>> adopt obedient and slave technology.
>>>
>>> YM
>>>
>>> Chat GPT
>>>
>>> The piece titled "The Obedient Science and Technology" expresses a deep
>>> concern about the current trajectory of human interaction with nature
>>> through the lens of science and technology. Here's a summary and analysis
>>> of the main points:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ### Summary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. **Connection with Nature**:
>>>
>>>     - The author advocates for a profound, intimate relationship with
>>> nature, akin to that of lovers who strive to eliminate any distance between
>>> them. This connection involves breathing, smelling, sensing, perceiving,
>>> and feeling as intrinsic parts of nature.
>>>
>>>     - Such a relationship requires faith and love, emphasizing the need
>>> for empathy and the abolition of the observer's distance from nature.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. **Critique of Modern Science and Technology**:
>>>
>>>     - Modern science is criticized for maintaining a detached and
>>> manipulative stance towards nature, leading to destructive practices such
>>> as deforestation and habitat destruction.
>>>
>>>     - Technology is described as lacking feelings and emotions, leading
>>> to a dispassionate and often destructive engagement with the natural world.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. **Indifference to Nature's Destruction**:
>>>
>>>     - There's a strong condemnation of society's indifference to the
>>> destruction of nature, with more than half of the world's forests already
>>> gone.
>>>
>>>     - The author points out the irony in celebrating technological
>>> advancements while causing ecological devastation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. **Empathy and Ethics in Science**:
>>>
>>>     - The narrative laments the absence of empathy and emotional
>>> engagement in the current scientific and technological paradigm, which the
>>> author views as the ultimate cruelty.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. **Nature's Incompatibility with Mechanized Systems**:
>>>
>>>     - Nature is portrayed as inherently unable to conform to mechanized
>>> and non-human economic systems like Newtonian Economics, which distance
>>> themselves from ecological considerations.
>>>
>>>     - Educational courses have shifted from natural sciences to
>>> mechanization, contributing to a disconnect from ecological awareness.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 6. **Dehumanization through Technology**:
>>>
>>>     - The author argues that modern education and professional fields
>>> prioritize technology and machine-driven environments, leading to a loss of
>>> natural connection.
>>>
>>>     - Air-conditioned environments are used as a metaphor for
>>> artificiality and ego inflation, contrasting with the humility and
>>> authenticity of natural engagement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 7. **Spiritual Dimension**:
>>>
>>>     - There's a spiritual undercurrent where God is equated with nature,
>>> and merging with nature (or God) requires a speed of light akin to ultimate
>>> understanding and unity.
>>>
>>>     - Genuine connection with nature is seen as spiritually fulfilling,
>>> unlike the artificial and ego-driven pursuit of technological advancements.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ### Analysis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The piece is a passionate critique of the current state of human-nature
>>> interaction, emphasizing the emotional and ethical shortcomings of modern
>>> science and technology. The author calls for a paradigm shift from a
>>> mechanistic and detached approach to one that is empathetic, loving, and
>>> deeply connected with nature. This involves:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - **Revaluing Sensory Engagement**: Encouraging sensory and emotional
>>> engagement with nature, rather than treating it as a mere object of study
>>> or resource for exploitation.
>>>
>>> - **Redefining Progress**: Rethinking what constitutes progress,
>>> favoring ecological harmony over technological dominance.
>>>
>>> - **Educational Reform**: Shifting educational priorities back towards
>>> natural sciences and ecological awareness to foster a more sustainable and
>>> empathetic worldview.
>>>
>>> - **Spiritual Reconnection**: Recognizing the spiritual dimension of
>>> nature and seeking unity with it through love and empathy, rather than
>>> control and manipulation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Overall, the piece calls for a profound transformation in how we
>>> perceive and interact with the natural world, advocating for an ethic of
>>> care and respect that aligns with both ecological sustainability and
>>> spiritual fulfillment.
>>>
>>
>
> --
> *Mar*
>

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