The problem, is that you cannot do a calibration fo a GPS since it will depend 
on the satellite constellation which change all day long even if you don’t 
move. So calibration of a GPS is a no no!
If you use accurate GPS measurements, either baseline measurement, of PPP post 
processing (but you need a GPS slightly more expensive that the regular 
handheld ;-) ) you can have an accuracy of a few millimetres. So the std-dev 
should always be given explicitly for GPS.

Phil


> On 11 Sep 2017, at 21:24 PM, Martin Sluka via Therion <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> There is an application for Android Mobile Topographer (Pro). In Pro version 
> it is 15 EUR?
> 
> It has many very interesting features to measure and use GPS including 
> calibration on known point etc.
> 
> There is only one problem with this application. It has no automatic backup 
> of measured data. So only way around is export data to an available format 
> and save it manually. Topographer crashed on my Android tablet and I loose 
> all my GPS points. On other hand the uninstallation and new installation was 
> without any problem. Just to backup a folder with exports before.
> 
> m.s.
> 
>> 11. 9. 2017 v 20:53, Xavier Pennec via Therion <[email protected]>:
>> 
>> One of the problem for a predefined accuracy of gps measures is that it 
>> really depends on each measurement. I usually use a stddev of 2 to 3 times 
>> the figure of merit (FOM) of the GPS averaging procedure for x and y 
>> coordinates and 4 to 5 times for the altitude. This can range from a few 
>> meters (this has  to be on a plateau with no trees) to 50/100 m for 
>> measurements in forests with a few satellites only (there are also often 
>> reflections on cliffs that perturb the measure).
>> 
>> Xavier
>> 
>> Le 11-Sep-17 à 19:10, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion a écrit :
>>> No, i meant the following:
>>> 
>>> currently one has to give std-dev explicitely:
>>> fix 1.2a  0.5 0.5 0.5
>>> 
>>> it would be nice to use instead:
>>> fix 1.2a  gps
>>> where the term "gps" is some predefined accuracy, like in grade definition
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 2017-09-11 10:08, schrieb Bruce Mutton via Therion:
>>>> Benedikt wrote
>>>>> The option to use "alias names" for fixes instead of directly numbers 
>>>>> would be good, this would allow to ship standards with therion and allow 
>>>>> the user to to define custom ones, just like in grade definitions.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure I understand correctly what you mean.
>>>> 
>>>> We can make alias now, using equate.  This is what I usually do for gps 
>>>> fixes.
>>>> 
>>>> In a cave survey 'index data file'...
>>>> centreline
>>>> cs lat long
>>>> fix gpsEntrance01 <lat> <long> <altitude> [<stderr> etc ]
>>>> fix gpsEntrance02 <lat> <long> <altitude>
>>>> etc
>>>> 
>>>> equate gpsEntrance01  53@<survey1>
>>>> equate gpsEntrance02  1@<survey14>
>>>> equate gpsEntrance01  AliasNameCreatedByThisStatement
>>>> endcentreline
>>>> 
>>>> ie 53@<survey1>, gpsEntrance01 and AliasNameCreatedByThisStatement are all 
>>>> alias' of each other. They all refer to the same physical point. The last 
>>>> name is created by the equate statement, whereas the others all exist 
>>>> prior to the execution of the equate statements.
>>>> 
>>>> Or were you meaning something different?
>>>> 
>>>> Bruce
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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