My understanding is that she is not, technically, mortal. But Wikipedia may have other ideas.
On Mar 26, 3:03 pm, "Edward Crosby" <[email protected]> wrote: > My questions still were not answered. > Seriously, is Wonder Woman considered human? I know she was made from clay > but is she considered something different other than a human, or is she > human? > The reason I asked those questions because I could see Iceman living to > his potential and using that strategy sort of the way Magneto has done > (threatened?) in that he can pull the iron right of an opponents blood, > instantly killing that person. Same for Iceman in that he could instantly > freeze the water in a human causing severe and brutal death. > > -- > > Have a Better One, > Edward Crosbyhttp://www.edwardcrosby.comhttp://www.techdiffpodcast.com > > > That's sort of BS, though. She certainly didn't use any of those things > > to > > their full potential any of the other 987,643 times that the entire DC > > Universe was in terrible danger, so why would she, all of a sudden, do so > > in > > a fight with Iceman? Using a one-time Macguffin as an example of a > > character's standard abilities is dishonest at best. > > > I don't think she's going to be able to catch Iceman in a lasso if he can > > control his entire body structure. Even if she could, her lasso can only > > compel him to answer truthfully. The answer to her "How do I defeat you" > > question could truthfully be "You can't." > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Vanessa <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> She refrains from using much of her amror to their full potential > >> because she is a warrior and takes pride in the fight. But if Iceman > >> pushes her to the limit as you seem to think he would, then Wonder > >> Woman would pull out all the stops, and would use her weapons to their > >> full potential (ie "crazy stuff") as has been demonstrated many times > >> over the years.The sword of Hephaestus (can cut the electrons off an > >> atom), gauntlets of atlas (makes her WAY stronger), and most of all, > >> her nifty alien disc that can turn into anything (usually a jet, but > >> she once used it to stop a tidal wave of epic proportions, so I have a > >> feeling it could hold little old ice man). > > >> And really all she has to do is get her Lasso around Bobby, he > >> wouldn't be able to fight back, and ask him..."How do I defeat you?" > > >> On Mar 26, 1:42 pm, Terry Morton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > To me, it sort of seems that you're overstating Wonder Woman's > >> abilities > >> and > >> > understating Iceman's. I know that WW has done crazy stuff with her > >> lasso, > >> > bracers, and all; but I probably wouldn't try to use any non-standard > >> uses > >> > of her magical equipment as examples of standard stuff she can do, > >> > especially if it was a one-time thing. > > >> > Iceman, at the peak of his abilities, has complete control over his > >> > structure. I'm not really sure what Wonder Woman can do against that. > > >> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Vanessa <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> > > I am in the midst of a heated debate in regards to this...welcoming > >> > > any and all comments. Shout out to E-Boogie....See below..... > > >> > > A mutant, Iceman has the ability of cryokinesis where he can freeze > >> > > anything around him and can also turn his body into ice. > > >> > > Diana also can endure the vacuum of space which is VERY COLD! Not to > >> > > mention Diana could take his bitch ass down with the lasso. The > >> Lasso > >> > > can do more than make people tell the truth. Wonder Woman has used > >> > > her lasso to create a ring of protective fire around people to > >> protect > >> > > them from Circe's bestiamorphs. It can also put forth a massive > >> > > magically psychic attack on his soul that would even break down > >> > > Bobby's Xavier honed mental defenses. > > >> > > Iceman possesses the power to radically decrease the temperature of > >> > > ambient water vapor in his immediate environment, thereby freezing > >> it > >> > > into ice. In this manner he is able to quickly form a great variety > >> of > >> > > ice structures, including projectiles, shields, ladders, baseball > >> > > bats, etc. > > >> > > WW's got her bracelets to protect her. The Vambraces were formed > >> from > >> > > Zeus' legendary Aegis shield. They are indestructible, and can > >> absorb > >> > > the impact of incoming attacks. She has been able to shrug off high > >> > > powered rifle shots. Not to mention they can emit a high powered > >> > > energy blast that has made Superman's ears bleed. She surely could > >> > > deflect a little bit of ice, that is if she even lets him hit her. > >> > > And all that other fancy shit he can make into ice, Diana could > >> break > >> > > those "weapons" with her TIARA! > > >> > > He can also transform his body from a gaseous state back to a solid, > >> > > although it is physically and mentally taxing. > > >> > > He's gonna be real tired, then. > > >> > > Aside from his superhuman powers, Iceman is also a fair hand-to-hand > >> > > combatant, and received combat training at Xavier's School as well > >> as > >> > > coaching from the Black Widow while serving with the Champions of > >> Los > >> > > Angeles. Iceman has as much combat training as Cyclops or Beast. > > >> > > A "fair" hand-to-hand combatant? WW's combat prowess far exceeds IM. > >> > > She has been given mastery over the Amazonian fighting style which > >> has > >> > > been honed for 3000 years. This includes strategy and tactics. Not > >> > > to mention almost god-like strength. Even beating Super Girl. She > >> > > would easily surpass Colossus (one of the strongest mutants I am > >> aware > >> > > of). > > >> > > Iceman has also been able to move rapidly to another distant > >> location > >> > > while in his organic ice form, being able to deposit his bodily mass > >> > > into a river and reconstitute his entire mass a great distance away > >> in > >> > > a matter of minutes (by temporarily merging his molecules with those > >> > > of the river). > > >> > > Diana can fly at sub light speeds, she's blessed with the speed of > >> > > Hermes. Okay so he can turn to water and/or vapor and survive. > >> This > >> > > maybe makes him very hard to knock out, in theory. But, his powers > >> > > are very 'water' based. With Diana's massive mobility, she could > >> > > quickly move the fight to a dessert or even space (no water > >> > > there...and turning to water or vapor would quickly dissipate him). > > >> > > In conclusion... > > >> > > In WW, we have superior strength, speed, skill, toughness, and > >> > > intelligence. She would be capable of dodging/blocking or surviving > >> > > most any attach Iceman could throw. And, while his 'Organic Ice" is > >> > > tough it is no where even in the same galaxy as her abilities. > > >> > > On Mar 26, 11:54 am, Terry Morton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > I agree with Cary. Iceman has one of the most inconsistent > >> power-levels > >> > > in > >> > > > comics. If he's at his peak, I give it to Iceman; otherwise, > >> Wonder > >> > > Woman > >> > > > should beat him pretty handily. > > >> > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Cary Preston > >> <[email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > Depends on what version of each character you're talking about. > >> I > >> > > > > don't follow any DC mainstream titles, but Iceman has had a > >> pretty > >> > > > > wide range of power level. From the "walking snowman" of the > >> early > >> > > > > Xmen comics to the solid ice power-amplified version thanks to > >> Loki > >> or > >> > > > > when the White Queen took over his body and demonstrated just > >> how > >> > > > > powerful he can be. > > >> > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Vanessa > >> <[email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > Blow for blow - Who would win?- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
