Even with the aforemention Elemental advantage, Wonder Woman has been the "under dog" in many a battle against Gods, Demons, Magic, Aliens & Meta's, and proves to be victorious. Amazons would accpt death over defeat in battle, and we know Bobby won't kill her. With her weapons, intelligence, and pure relentlessness in a battle, she could at the very least contain him. And I am fairly certain that a lineup of top billed writers would place her as the victor.
Alas, we could go back and forth all day...Omega Level mutant...pure energy....Amazon Warrior....Power of the Gods..... I won't concede. On Mar 26, 5:06 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote: > It wasn't a discussion of killing, but besting in a conflict. I still > maintain that given that each character is at their maximum potential, > Iceman has a definite advantage. The winner of the conflict would > depend entirely on who wrote the story; Batman has faced down Solomon > Grundy and Bizzaro before, both of which would normally pulverize him- > kind of like Wolverine or Colossus trying to face down Magneto. > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Ronald Methvin <[email protected]> wrote: > > She's more demi-god than human. > > > New persepctive: > > > Even if IM /could/ kill her, would he? Well, has IM /ever/ killed anyone? > > Without his willingness to kill, I don't think he 'weaken' her enough to > > win. You don't even have to ask if WW is willing to kill. > > > That's why Cap Am, or even the Punisher, could beat Batman. While Cap is > > reluctant to kill, he will if he has to. Batman will always have > > to holdback. > > > --- On Thu, 3/26/09, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Edward Crosby <[email protected]> > > Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Wonder Woman versus Iceman (Bobby Drake) > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 1:24 PM > > > I think I still have to vote for Iceman in this battle, despite the facts > > presented. > > I don't know that much about Wonder Woman but can you tell me this: Is she > > human? If so, how much of the human body contains water? Does water > > freeze? Does Iceman freeze water? What happens to a block of ice when a > > large traveling object hits it? > > I rest my case. > > > -- > > > Have a Better One, > > Edward Crosby > >http://www.edwardcrosby.com > >http://www.techdiffpodcast.com > > >> I am in the midst of a heated debate in regards to this...welcoming > >> any and all comments. Shout out to E-Boogie....See below..... > > >> A mutant, Iceman has the ability of cryokinesis where he can freeze > >> anything around him and can also turn his body into ice. > > >> Diana also can endure the vacuum of space which is VERY COLD! Not to > >> mention Diana could take his bitch ass down with the lasso. The Lasso > >> can do more than make people tell the truth. Wonder Woman has used > >> her lasso to create a ring of protective fire around people to protect > >> them from Circe's bestiamorphs. It can also put forth a massive > >> magically psychic attack on his soul that would even break down > >> Bobby's Xavier honed mental defenses. > > >> Iceman possesses the power to radically decrease the temperature of > >> ambient water vapor in his immediate environment, thereby freezing it > >> into ice. In this manner he is able to quickly form a great variety of > >> ice structures, including projectiles, shields, ladders, baseball > >> bats, etc. > > >> WW's got her bracelets to protect her. The Vambraces were formed from > >> Zeus' legendary Aegis shield. They are indestructible, and can absorb > >> the impact of incoming attacks. She has been able to shrug off high > >> powered rifle shots. Not to mention they can emit a high powered > >> energy blast that has made Superman's ears bleed. She surely could > >> deflect a little bit of ice, that is if she even lets him hit her. > >> And all that other fancy shit he can make into ice, Diana could break > >> those "weapons" with her TIARA! > > >> He can also transform his body from a gaseous state back to a solid, > >> although it is physically and mentally taxing. > > >> He's gonna be real tired, then. > > >> Aside from his superhuman powers, Iceman is also a fair hand-to-hand > >> combatant, and received combat training at Xavier's School as well as > >> coaching from the Black Widow while serving with the Champions of Los > >> Angeles. Iceman has as much combat training as Cyclops or Beast. > > >> A "fair" hand-to-hand combatant? WW's combat prowess far > > exceeds IM. > >> She has been given mastery over the Amazonian fighting style which has > >> been honed for 3000 years. This includes strategy and tactics. Not > >> to mention almost god-like strength. Even beating Super Girl. She > >> would easily surpass Colossus (one of the strongest mutants I am aware > >> of). > > >> Iceman has also been able to move rapidly to another distant location > >> while in his organic ice form, being able to deposit his bodily mass > >> into a river and reconstitute his entire mass a great distance away in > >> a matter of minutes (by temporarily merging his molecules with those > >> of the river). > > >> Diana can fly at sub light speeds, she's blessed with the speed of > >> Hermes. Okay so he can turn to water and/or vapor and survive. This > >> maybe makes him very hard to knock out, in theory. But, his powers > >> are very 'water' based. With Diana's massive mobility, she > > could > >> quickly move the fight to a dessert or even space (no water > >> there...and turning to water or vapor would quickly dissipate him). > > >> In conclusion... > > >> In WW, we have superior strength, speed, skill, toughness, and > >> intelligence. She would be capable of dodging/blocking or surviving > >> most any attach Iceman could throw. And, while his 'Organic Ice" > > is > >> tough it is no where even in the same galaxy as her abilities. > > >> On Mar 26, 11:54 am, Terry Morton <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> I agree with Cary. Iceman has one of the most inconsistent > > power-levels > >>> in > >>> comics. If he's at his peak, I give it to Iceman; otherwise, > > Wonder > >>> Woman > >>> should beat him pretty handily. > > >>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Cary Preston > > <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > > >>> > Depends on what version of each character you're talking > > about. I > >>> > don't follow any DC mainstream titles, but Iceman has had a > > pretty > >>> > wide range of power level. From the "walking snowman" > > of the early > >>> > Xmen comics to the solid ice power-amplified version thanks to > > Loki or > >>> > when the White Queen took over his body and demonstrated just how > >>> > powerful he can be. > > >>> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Vanessa > > <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > Blow for blow - Who would win?- Hide quoted text - > > >>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
