Franco

Installed it. Said no battery was installed even though it was running off 
battery.

Simon



----- Original Message -----
From:Franco Roman
To:Simon Royal
Subject:Re: [Thinkpad] Further In My R31 Battery Issues


LOL...
you can still give it a try, if it's not supported the worse thing that can
happens is that the intallation will fail.

On 7 January 2011 11:16, Simon Royal <[email protected]> wrote:

> Franco
>
> It seems the R31 is not supported.
>
> http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-70602.html
>
> Simon
>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Franco Roman <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Simon,
>>
>> The battery calibration tool is in the Lenovo Power Manager Utility, on
>> the T60 i have installed  the version is 1,73, don't know if thats the
>> latest one for XP. On the other hand on the T61 i have the latest version
>> 3,31xxx something (running W7 professional).
>> Download and update the latest Power Manager form the lenovo site for your
>> OS. (Lenovo site)
>>
>> Then, open or launch the power manager, there is a tab that says
>> "Battery", in that tab ther's a button that says Battery Maintenance, click
>> it and that will open another window with the battery charging / discharging
>> percentage config. and there's a section named Battery Gauge Reset with a
>> button with Perform Reset...    thats the recalibration.
>>
>> Tell me if you have trouble finding the battery recalibration.
>>
>> F.
>>
>> On 7 January 2011 10:45, Simon Royal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Franco
>>>
>>> Where did you get the Battery Calibration Tool from. I checked the
>>> IBM/Lenovo site and found nothing.
>>>
>>> I have the Power Management, Battery Maximiser Gauge and ThinkPad
>>> Configuration utility. None of these have any calibration tools or
>>> options.
>>>
>>> It is just confusion. I just charged it and it stopped at 70%. I am now
>>> running off battery. Task bar say 0%, Maximiser Gauge says 68% after
>>> about 5
>>> mins on battery, which is about right and the battery light under the
>>> keyboard is flashing orange.
>>>
>>> All I want is for the battery to register how long it will last.
>>>
>>> Also under Ubuntu removing the power plug while running causing the
>>> machine
>>> to hang - flashing the caps lock and scroll lock. I would like to over
>>> come
>>> this too.
>>>
>>> If I cannot get round this problem or it is indeed a faulty battery I
>>> will
>>> send it back or accept a partial refund.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Franco Roman <[email protected]
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > Simon:
>>> >
>>> > Yes, i know that a new battery for an old machine is expensiver than
>>> the
>>> > laptop itself, that´s why the quotes " "...
>>> > any way, i have a T61 and the battery still have 86% of the total
>>> capacity,
>>> > and it has been charged more than 700 cycles.
>>> >
>>> > I have done several recalibration on different machines (T60 from work
>>> and
>>> > the T61 mine) and the battery improvement is huge. the T60 reduce it
>>> wear
>>> > level from 33% to 21% in just 1 recalibration, and that gave me like 40
>>> to
>>> > 50 mins of autonomy.
>>> >
>>> > Same thing on my T61, the battery had 18% wear level, and now its 14%,
>>> > giving me like +30 mins of extra battery life.
>>> > I don't know how an old battery/machine will respond to that
>>> recalibration,
>>> > but i think that you definitely should give it a try.
>>> >
>>> > F.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 7 January 2011 09:59, Simon Royal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Franco
>>> >>
>>> >> I realise a used battery is not ideal, but it was cheap, the guy
>>> seemed
>>> >> reasonable and reputable. I have contacted him and he has been
>>> helpful.
>>> >>
>>> >> R31 batteries are expensive and I do not want one from Hong Kong. Also
>>> >> keep
>>> >> in mind the age of the machine. I dont want to spend more on a battery
>>> >> than
>>> >> the machine is worth.
>>> >>
>>> >> I will try the battery recalibration. That might help. I know it isnt
>>> >> going
>>> >> to make it wonderful, just more of an accurate idea of how long the
>>> >> battery
>>> >> lasts would be nice.
>>> >>
>>> >> I used the Battery Maximiser Gauge and it told me original values are
>>> 45,
>>> >> current values are 23. So it is about 60% of its original capacity.
>>> Also
>>> >> it
>>> >> has been charged 285 times, which isnt too bad.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ive had Mac batteries charged over 600 times and still holding up 70%.
>>> So,
>>> >> cycle count isnt too bad.
>>> >>
>>> >> Are we edging towards the battery is at fault and not my laptop. The
>>> guy
>>> >> has
>>> >> offered a partial refund but I dont want to rip him off as I didnt pay
>>> too
>>> >> much for it in the first place, although he did tell me it was working
>>> >> fine.
>>> >>
>>> >> Simon
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Franco Roman <
>>> [email protected]
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > The first "mistake" you did, is buying a used battery (my bad if i'm
>>> >> > wrong). What I would do if i were in your shoes is, on XP i´ll do a
>>> >> battery
>>> >> > recalibration, (with Lenovo Power Manager) this will fully
>>> charge-fully
>>> >> > discharge and fully recharge the battery to its minimum and maximunm
>>> >> values,
>>> >> > respectively.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The other thing, download the Hardware Monitor app (you can find it
>>> >> here:
>>> >> > www.cpuid.com) this will get all the info from your machine
>>> including
>>> >> the
>>> >> > battery info, and it will tell you what were the factory values, the
>>> >> actual
>>> >> > values and the wear level of the battery, so you can have an idea of
>>> >> "how
>>> >> > much use" the battery has.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If the battery recalibration doesn't work at all, i'll go for
>>> another
>>> >> > battery, this time a new one
>>> >> >
>>> >> > regards
>>> >> >
>>> >> > F.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 6 January 2011 18:15, Simon Royal <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hi
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Brief history: Bought R31 which came with dead battery about two
>>> weeks
>>> >> >> ago.
>>> >> >> Bought a second hand battery from ebay, reputable seller of laptop
>>> >> parts.
>>> >> >> Guy said battery lasts about 90 mins.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Today: The replacement battery arrived today and it has been
>>> struggling
>>> >> to
>>> >> >> charge all day.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> When I first put it in it did not register. It took about 5 mins
>>> before
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> machine recognised a battery was there.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Earlier today I could only get the battery to charge to 27% and it
>>> took
>>> >> >> about 20 mins to do so. Then it sat there for a while then suddenly
>>> >> >> charged
>>> >> >> to 33%. It sat there for a few hours and went up to 35%. I then ran
>>> the
>>> >> >> battery out completely and started charging it again. It charged to
>>> 37%
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> stopped.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> If I pull out the adapter in Ubuntu, it will hang the machine -
>>> >> flashing
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> caps lock and scroll lock lights. The same happens if the battery
>>> runs
>>> >> too
>>> >> >> low - this I have been told is a kernel panic.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> This doesnt happen in XP. You can remove the power adapter and put
>>> it
>>> >> in
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> it accepts the AC adapter.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I have noticed something very odd. It charged to 37% according to
>>> the
>>> >> >> Battery Maximiser Gauge. However, I have been running it for about
>>> 30
>>> >> mins
>>> >> >> and the percentage hasnt dropped. The little battery icon in the
>>> task
>>> >> bar
>>> >> >> of
>>> >> >> XP warned me it was low about 20 mins ago and is sitting with a
>>> crossed
>>> >> >> out
>>> >> >> battery stating 0% remaining.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> So Battery Maximiser Gauge still says 37%, but task bar says 0%.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> While it is great that I actually have my ThinkPad running without
>>> an
>>> >> AC
>>> >> >> adapter and running for quite a while, I have no idea how long this
>>> >> >> battery
>>> >> >> is going to last and no way of finding out.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> What is going on? I cannot trust either meter. Do I need to
>>> recalibrate
>>> >> or
>>> >> >> something. I am not bothered how long the battery lasts but it
>>> would be
>>> >> >> good
>>> >> >> to know how long it is going to last. I would also like to get this
>>> >> >> working
>>> >> >> in Ubuntu.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Can anyone help.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Simon
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac:
>>> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal.
>>> >> >> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple
>>> >> >> PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10
>>> Mini
>>> >> >> Pro running 2.1
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>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Franco Román Brigando
>>> >> > Estudiante Ingeniería Civíl Electrónica
>>> >> > Universidad Mayor
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> > Universidad Mayor
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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>> Franco Román Brigando
>> Estudiante Ingeniería Civíl Electrónica
>> Universidad Mayor
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: 
> http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal.
>
> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook 
> G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1
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