Franco As long as it is the battery, then I can get back to the seller.
I had an idea it was but I wanted to be sure. Simon On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Franco Roman <[email protected]>wrote: > xD!! > well, it's definetly the battery. I'm out of ideas. > Any one else have another clue?? > > On 7 January 2011 12:13, Simon Royal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Franco >> >> Installed it. Said no battery was installed even though it was running off >> battery. >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From:Franco Roman >> To:Simon Royal >> Subject:Re: [Thinkpad] Further In My R31 Battery Issues >> >> >> LOL... >> you can still give it a try, if it's not supported the worse thing that >> can >> happens is that the intallation will fail. >> >> On 7 January 2011 11:16, Simon Royal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Franco >> > >> > It seems the R31 is not supported. >> > >> > http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-70602.html >> > >> > Simon >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Franco Roman <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> >> Simon, >> >> >> >> The battery calibration tool is in the Lenovo Power Manager Utility, on >> >> the T60 i have installed the version is 1,73, don't know if thats the >> >> latest one for XP. On the other hand on the T61 i have the latest >> version >> >> 3,31xxx something (running W7 professional). >> >> Download and update the latest Power Manager form the lenovo site for >> your >> >> OS. (Lenovo site) >> >> >> >> Then, open or launch the power manager, there is a tab that says >> >> "Battery", in that tab ther's a button that says Battery Maintenance, >> click >> >> it and that will open another window with the battery charging / >> discharging >> >> percentage config. and there's a section named Battery Gauge Reset with >> a >> >> button with Perform Reset... thats the recalibration. >> >> >> >> Tell me if you have trouble finding the battery recalibration. >> >> >> >> F. >> >> >> >> On 7 January 2011 10:45, Simon Royal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Franco >> >>> >> >>> Where did you get the Battery Calibration Tool from. I checked the >> >>> IBM/Lenovo site and found nothing. >> >>> >> >>> I have the Power Management, Battery Maximiser Gauge and ThinkPad >> >>> Configuration utility. None of these have any calibration tools or >> >>> options. >> >>> >> >>> It is just confusion. I just charged it and it stopped at 70%. I am >> now >> >>> running off battery. Task bar say 0%, Maximiser Gauge says 68% after >> >>> about 5 >> >>> mins on battery, which is about right and the battery light under the >> >>> keyboard is flashing orange. >> >>> >> >>> All I want is for the battery to register how long it will last. >> >>> >> >>> Also under Ubuntu removing the power plug while running causing the >> >>> machine >> >>> to hang - flashing the caps lock and scroll lock. I would like to over >> >>> come >> >>> this too. >> >>> >> >>> If I cannot get round this problem or it is indeed a faulty battery I >> >>> will >> >>> send it back or accept a partial refund. >> >>> >> >>> Simon >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Franco Roman < >> [email protected] >> >>> >wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > Simon: >> >>> > >> >>> > Yes, i know that a new battery for an old machine is expensiver than >> >>> the >> >>> > laptop itself, that´s why the quotes " "... >> >>> > any way, i have a T61 and the battery still have 86% of the total >> >>> capacity, >> >>> > and it has been charged more than 700 cycles. >> >>> > >> >>> > I have done several recalibration on different machines (T60 from >> work >> >>> and >> >>> > the T61 mine) and the battery improvement is huge. the T60 reduce it >> >>> wear >> >>> > level from 33% to 21% in just 1 recalibration, and that gave me like >> 40 >> >>> to >> >>> > 50 mins of autonomy. >> >>> > >> >>> > Same thing on my T61, the battery had 18% wear level, and now its >> 14%, >> >>> > giving me like +30 mins of extra battery life. >> >>> > I don't know how an old battery/machine will respond to that >> >>> recalibration, >> >>> > but i think that you definitely should give it a try. >> >>> > >> >>> > F. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > On 7 January 2011 09:59, Simon Royal <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> Franco >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I realise a used battery is not ideal, but it was cheap, the guy >> >>> seemed >> >>> >> reasonable and reputable. I have contacted him and he has been >> >>> helpful. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> R31 batteries are expensive and I do not want one from Hong Kong. >> Also >> >>> >> keep >> >>> >> in mind the age of the machine. I dont want to spend more on a >> battery >> >>> >> than >> >>> >> the machine is worth. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I will try the battery recalibration. That might help. I know it >> isnt >> >>> >> going >> >>> >> to make it wonderful, just more of an accurate idea of how long the >> >>> >> battery >> >>> >> lasts would be nice. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I used the Battery Maximiser Gauge and it told me original values >> are >> >>> 45, >> >>> >> current values are 23. So it is about 60% of its original capacity. >> >>> Also >> >>> >> it >> >>> >> has been charged 285 times, which isnt too bad. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Ive had Mac batteries charged over 600 times and still holding up >> 70%. >> >>> So, >> >>> >> cycle count isnt too bad. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Are we edging towards the battery is at fault and not my laptop. >> The >> >>> guy >> >>> >> has >> >>> >> offered a partial refund but I dont want to rip him off as I didnt >> pay >> >>> too >> >>> >> much for it in the first place, although he did tell me it was >> working >> >>> >> fine. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Simon >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Franco Roman < >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> >> >wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > The first "mistake" you did, is buying a used battery (my bad if >> i'm >> >>> >> > wrong). What I would do if i were in your shoes is, on XP i´ll do >> a >> >>> >> battery >> >>> >> > recalibration, (with Lenovo Power Manager) this will fully >> >>> charge-fully >> >>> >> > discharge and fully recharge the battery to its minimum and >> maximunm >> >>> >> values, >> >>> >> > respectively. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > The other thing, download the Hardware Monitor app (you can find >> it >> >>> >> here: >> >>> >> > www.cpuid.com) this will get all the info from your machine >> >>> including >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> > battery info, and it will tell you what were the factory values, >> the >> >>> >> actual >> >>> >> > values and the wear level of the battery, so you can have an idea >> of >> >>> >> "how >> >>> >> > much use" the battery has. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > If the battery recalibration doesn't work at all, i'll go for >> >>> another >> >>> >> > battery, this time a new one >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > regards >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > F. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > On 6 January 2011 18:15, Simon Royal <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> Hi >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Brief history: Bought R31 which came with dead battery about two >> >>> weeks >> >>> >> >> ago. >> >>> >> >> Bought a second hand battery from ebay, reputable seller of >> laptop >> >>> >> parts. >> >>> >> >> Guy said battery lasts about 90 mins. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Today: The replacement battery arrived today and it has been >> >>> struggling >> >>> >> to >> >>> >> >> charge all day. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> When I first put it in it did not register. It took about 5 mins >> >>> before >> >>> >> >> the >> >>> >> >> machine recognised a battery was there. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Earlier today I could only get the battery to charge to 27% and >> it >> >>> took >> >>> >> >> about 20 mins to do so. Then it sat there for a while then >> suddenly >> >>> >> >> charged >> >>> >> >> to 33%. It sat there for a few hours and went up to 35%. I then >> ran >> >>> the >> >>> >> >> battery out completely and started charging it again. It charged >> to >> >>> 37% >> >>> >> >> and >> >>> >> >> stopped. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> If I pull out the adapter in Ubuntu, it will hang the machine - >> >>> >> flashing >> >>> >> >> the >> >>> >> >> caps lock and scroll lock lights. The same happens if the >> battery >> >>> runs >> >>> >> too >> >>> >> >> low - this I have been told is a kernel panic. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> This doesnt happen in XP. You can remove the power adapter and >> put >> >>> it >> >>> >> in >> >>> >> >> and >> >>> >> >> it accepts the AC adapter. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I have noticed something very odd. It charged to 37% according >> to >> >>> the >> >>> >> >> Battery Maximiser Gauge. However, I have been running it for >> about >> >>> 30 >> >>> >> mins >> >>> >> >> and the percentage hasnt dropped. The little battery icon in the >> >>> task >> >>> >> bar >> >>> >> >> of >> >>> >> >> XP warned me it was low about 20 mins ago and is sitting with a >> >>> crossed >> >>> >> >> out >> >>> >> >> battery stating 0% remaining. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> So Battery Maximiser Gauge still says 37%, but task bar says 0%. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> While it is great that I actually have my ThinkPad running >> without >> >>> an >> >>> >> AC >> >>> >> >> adapter and running for quite a while, I have no idea how long >> this >> >>> >> >> battery >> >>> >> >> is going to last and no way of finding out. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> What is going on? I cannot trust either meter. Do I need to >> >>> recalibrate >> >>> >> or >> >>> >> >> something. I am not bothered how long the battery lasts but it >> >>> would be >> >>> >> >> good >> >>> >> >> to know how long it is going to last. I would also like to get >> this >> >>> >> >> working >> >>> >> >> in Ubuntu. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Can anyone help. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Simon >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: >> >>> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. >> >>> >> >> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. >> Apple >> >>> >> >> PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 >> >>> Mini >> >>> >> >> Pro running 2.1 >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> >> Thinkpad mailing list >> >>> >> >> [email protected] >> >>> >> >> http://stderr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/thinkpad >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > -- >> >>> >> > Franco Román Brigando >> >>> >> > Estudiante Ingeniería Civíl Electrónica >> >>> >> > Universidad Mayor >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> >> >>> >> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: >> >>> >> http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. >> >>> >> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple >> >>> >> PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. 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